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Toukou 08

Shurelia2

久し振りの、シュレリアのテクニカルセンターの時間がやって参りました。久し振りのタイトルコールで、ちょっと緊張していますが、皆さんお元気でしたか?
アルトネリコ3も発売になりまして、お陰様でテクニカルセンターの投稿も、かなり増えてきました。ですがごめんなさい、アルトネリコ3をテクニカるには、ちょっと時期が早すぎて、お答えできるものがかなり少ないんです。ですから、今回は涙を飲みながら沢山の投稿を見送りにせざるを得ない状況になってしまいました。アルトネリコ3を楽しんで、興味を持ってくれた事を質問してくれているのに、本当にごめんなさい。でも、回答がネタバレにならないような質問ならアルトネリコ3のものでも答えていきますので、いい感じの質問作りにチャレンジしてみてくださいね!

Long time no see! Time has finally come again for Lady Shurelia's Technical Service Center. This is the first time since long ago I've done the title call, so while I'm a little tense, is everyone out there well?
Ar tonelico 3 has been just released, so thanks to it, even the number of submissions for the Technical Center have greatly increased. But unfortunately, it's still far too early for technical questions about Ar tonelico 3, so the questions we can answer about it will be very few for now. Therefore, I had to contain my tears and was forced to overlook several of the submissions we received. I know that you all are enjoying Ar tonelico and there are several interesting things about I was asked, so I'm truly sorry. However, I can still answer about Ar tonelico 3 as long as they don't contain spoilers for its main story, so please let's try facing this challenge head-on as we make good vibes for question answering!

Jakuri3

相変わらず無茶言うわね…。それに、相変わらずタイトル間違ってるし。アルトネリコ3が発売されても全く変わらない人がここに一人。

And you still continue saying absurd things like always... and like always, you said the title incorrectly. Looks like you are the only that didn't change at all even with Ar tonelico 3's release.


ィリアのリンケージを見てふと思ったのですが、フレリアにはリンケージは無いのですか?
えらいファンタジーな姿をしてるのであれ自体リンケージの一種なのかなとは考えたのですが、実際のところはどうなんでしょ?
(ぺたお)

We have seen Tyria's Linkage, but doesn't Frelia have one as well?
One of my greatest fantasies was seeing her herself while wearing a Linkage-like suit, but then I wondered, does she actually have one or not?
(Petao)

Frelia0

私にはリンケージは無いみたいだね。理由は明確で、私が「塔の管理者」としての役割を担っていないからに他ならないんだよ。お姉ちゃんは塔と接続する事になったときにリンケージを装備するようになって、ティリアちゃんは最初からデフォルト装備だったみたいだけど。でも私にリンケージがあったらどんな感じになるのかな。やっぱりお胸ぼーんな感じのがもらえるのかな?

It seems I don't have a Linkage. The reason is obviously no other than the fact I was never planned to be appointed for the role of [Tower Administrator]. Sis got equipped with her Linkage as part of the physical connections that were performed to link her with the Tower, but it seems it also was a default equipment for Sis Tyria from the beginning. However, I still wonder how it'd feel if I wore a Linkage too. Also, how it'd feel to have a bust size increase with it?


二塔は未完成のため詩魔法サーバーとしての機能等は存在しておらず、I.P.D.を除くメタファルスのレーヴァテイルはソル・マルタを経由して第一塔と接続している、とのことですが・・・
では第一塔でサスペンドが実行されていた時期、メタファルスのレーヴァテイルにも影響があったのでしょうかルカさん?
(zxcb)

Since the Second Tower was created incompletely, it doesn't have the functions of a Song Magic Server, but does this mean that outside of the IPDs, the Reyvateils in Metafalss are all connected to the First Tower via Sol Marta...?
If that's the case, when Suspend was executed in the First Tower, did it have any effect on the Reyvateils over at Metafalss, Luca?
(zxcb)

Cloche0

あったわね。メタ・ファルス中のレーヴァテイルが詩魔法を使えなくなったわ。あの時は他にも色々な災厄があったわけだけど、その事に関しては先日お話ししたから今回は割愛するわね。私は何ともなかったけど。

Of course it did have. The Reyvateils in Metafalss suddenly became unable to use Song Magic. However, at that moment several other disasters took place as well, so this matter is usually omitted whenever the topic about the collapses that happened back them is brought up. It didn't have any effect on me, though.

Luca(adult)0

私は詩魔法使えなくなっていたみたいだよ。「みたい」っていうのは、当時はあまり詩魔法を使うこともなかったから、気づかなかったって事なんだけど。私の本業はダイバーズセラピだから、ダイブさえ出来れば仕事成り立つし、サスペンドしてもダイブは普通に出来るからね。本当にこの仕事やってて良かったって思ったよ。

It looks like I couldn't use Song Magic either. I said "looks like", because at the time I almost didn't use any Song Magic, so I never really noticed it. Since I work as a Dive Therapist, I could continue working as long as Dives could be conducted, and Dives are still possible as normal even during the time Suspend is in effect. I thought I was really glad that this is the job I had.


びたびすみません。主にインフェル・ピラ関係で質問があります。
インプランタとハイバネーションは、どちらが先に開発されたのでしょうか? ハイバネーションのHC自体が完成したのは現代だったようですし、リカバリ用としてインプランタの方が先に作られたと考える方が自然だとは思います。しかしそれですと、何故インプランタはわざわざ、「ラプランカ魂の手記」の後半部分から物語を借りたのだろうという疑問が出てきます。HCに使用された物語の流れ的には、前半部分であるハイバネーション→インプランタの製作順の方が自然に感じるのですが……。
もうひとつは、インフェル・ピラのメッセラモードについてです。インフェルさんが神との戦争において、インフェル・ピラと直結しI.P.Dを統率したのはこのモードなのでしょうか? だとしたらやはりこのモードにも、レプレキアのように制御詩が存在したのでしょうか? それとも、神との戦争前に既にメッセラモードは禁止されていたのでしょうか。
ストーカーかというぐらいインフェルさん絡みの質問をしてしまいましたが、お答えいただけると嬉しいです。
(ねこだいすき)

I'm sorry for asking so many questions. Here I have questions mainly about Infel Phira.
Which one was developed first, Implanta or Hibernation? It seems like the HC for Hibernation was completed in recent years, so I thought it was natural that Implanta, as the Song used for data recovery, was developed first. However, if that's the case, why does Implanta expressly borrow as its feelings the second half of the story of the "Rhaplanca Soul Record"? From the way the stories used in the HCs flow, it'd be natural to think that Hibernation was created before Implanta, but...
My other question is about Infel Phira's Messela Mode. During the War Against the Goddess, was this the mode that Infel used to directly connect with Infel Phira and lead the IPDs? And if that's the case, does this mode have a control Song like Replekia does? Or Messela Mode had already been banned and sealed away before the War Against the Goddess took place?
Looks like I sent enough questions to Infel to look like a stalker, but I'll be very glad if I get them answered.
(I love cats)

Infel1

インプランタは、ハイバネーションの迎撃用詩魔法ではないのよ。もっと汎用的な、インフェル・ピラに何か問題が生じたときに使用して正常化する為のヒュムノス・エクストラクトなのよ。今回はたまたまハイバネーションで壊れたSHサーバーを復活させるために使ったけど、その他にも物理的損傷が無い、内部的な混乱は殆ど正常化することが出来るわ。I.P.D.暴走だけは、物理的損傷の所為で起こっているから、インプランタでは修復できないんだけど。
そしてハイバネーションは同じく私が設計したヒュムノスよ。確かに完成したのは相当後になってからだけど、設計原案は私だし、詩の想いの原案も私。両方ともラプランカ伝承の同じ物語をもじっているのは、当然皮肉100%よ。 メッセラは確かに禁止されているし、今では使用方法自体が葬り去られているわね。当然、METHOD_MESSELA/.は存在したわ。今はもう残っていないけど。私がメッセラを使ったかどうかはご想像にお任せするわ。

Implanta isn't a Song Magic for intercepting Hibernation. It's a more general-purpose Hymmnos Extract for normalizing Infel Phira whenever any sort of problem arises on it. Last time, it was used to restore the SH Server after it had been broken down due to Hibernation, but it can also normalize problems such as internal data disorder as long as Infel Phira is physically intact. The only thing that Implanta can't restore are problems such as the IPD Outbreaks, as these are caused by the physical damage Infel Phira suffered.
And similarly, Hibernation is also a Hymmnos I designed myself. It's true that it was completed much later, but its planning and the feelings it contains were all made by me. Both songs contain parts of the same story of the Rhaplanca legends, but naturally that was a 100% show of my cynicism.
It's true that Messela was prohibited, and currently even its way of usage has been left to oblivion. Naturally, a song called METHOD_MESSELA/. existed for activating it, but not even it remains now. As for if I even did use Messela, that's something I'll leave to your imagination.


ローシェ様が初見でココナをクロアのレーヴァテイルだと誤解していましたが、レーヴァテイルはレーヴァテイル(=普通の人間かどうか)を知覚できるものでもないのでしょうか?
(I.P.D.感染者同士の場合ですが、互いのLvすら認識しあっている描写も存在してましたが)
(zxcb)

Lady Cloche confused Cocona as Croix's Reyvateil when they first met each other, but aren't Reyvateils capable of perceiving fellow Reyvateils (or normal humans)?
(In the case of fellow IPD-infected I think they were able to even recognize the levels of each other, but...)
(zxcb)

Cloche0

別に大した理由じゃないわ。パスタリアの大鐘堂騎士隊は、ほぼ必ずと言っていいほどパートナーとなるレーヴァテイルを連れているからよ。そりゃ、騎士のクロアがココナと一緒にいたら、ココナをレーヴァテイルだと思うに決まってるでしょ?

There is no particular or important reason behind it. It's because in the Grand Bell Knight corps of Pastalia, almost of all of the knights have taken a Reyvateil as a partner, to the point it's even said to be a requirement for them. So basically, when I saw Croix and Cocona together, I took for granted that Cocona was his partner Reyvateil.


クニカルサービスセンター宛です。
第三世代はヒュムネコードはあるが塔に登録されていないとの事ですが、もし登録ができれば第三世代でもヒュムノスを謳う事が出来るのでしょうか?
また、塔への登録は可能なのでしょうか?
可能な場合は登録プロセスも教えていただけると幸いです。
(むぎ)

This is addressed to the Technical Service Center.
So the Third Generations do have Hymn Codes but don't have them registered in the Tower. But if they could have them registered, would Third Generations be able of singing Hymmnos too?
And is it possible to register them into the Tower?
If it's possible, please tell me what's the procedure used for registering them.
(Mugi)

Aurica10

可能だと思うよ。あたしはマグレでそれに当たって、謳えたわけだし。
もしヒュムネコードの登録技術が今でも残っていたら、第三世代のヒュムネコードをスキャンして塔に登録すれば謳うことが出来るよね。でも気をつけないと、あたしみたいに能力が足りないと、ヒュムノスに生命力を食べられて死んじゃう事もあるからね。不用意にヒュムノスは謳わない方が良いと思うよ?

I think it's possible. I was registered by pure chance and could sing them.
But if the technology and techniques for registering the Hymn Codes still remain even now, the Hymn Codes of the Third Generations could be scanned to get them registered in the Tower, allowing them to sing Hymmnos. However, if they aren't careful and don't have power in quantities similar to mine, the Hymmnos could end up devouring their life force and making them drop dead. Don't you think it'd be better for them to be unable to sing Hymmnos than to sing them carelessly?


だいま、アルトネリコの二次創作をやっているのですが、少し疑問に思ったのでお聞きしたいのですが。
レーヴァテイルとの関係が親密になった人物(ライナーとかクロア)が、不慮の事故で記憶喪失、もしくは性格などが変わって別の人格になった場合にダイブすると今まで積み上げたコスモフィアの世界はどうなるのでしょうか?また、記憶や人格が元に戻った時もどうなるのか教えてください。
(しーぽむ)

Right now, I'm making an Ar tonelico derivative work, but there are a few questions I'd like to ask about it first.
If a person that has gotten into a very intimate relationship with a Reyvateil (like Croix or Lyner) suddenly got amnesia from an accident, or if their personality changed to the point in which they turned into an entirely different person, what would happen to the Cosmosphere into which they had Dived until that moment? And what would happen once their memories or personality returned? Please tell me.
(Sea Pom)

Luca(adult)0

コスモスフィアってのは、常にリアルタイムに、大きくても小さくても変化はしているものなの。それと同時に、ダイブする人によっても見える世界が変わってくる。なぜなら、コスモスフィアっていうのは、ダイバーがいて初めて成立するものであって、レーヴァテイル単独では単なるデータの羅列でしかないから。ダイブという行為をすることで、レーヴァテイルとダイバーの間で指向性が生まれて、その単なるデータの羅列が目的を持った世界として構築されるの。それはその時々の心情によっても変わってくるよ。だから当然、大切な人が不慮の事故で死んでしまったりしたら、相当な変化が訪れるよね。でも、今まで積み上げたコスモスフィアの世界は変わらないよ。レベル5まで入れていたらレベル5からスタートするし。ただ、そのレベル5では、ショックより前のストーリーとはちょっと違うお話が展開する事にはなるとおもうけど。

As the Cosmosphere is constantly updating itself on real-time, it suffers from both big and small changes all the time. So the same time someone Dives in it, the world changes to accommodate the feelings of the Reyvateil for the current Diver. So the first time a Diver comes into the Cosmosphere, the Reyvateil herself can't do anything beyond a mere data listing. During the act we call Diving, a directionality begins to form between the Diver and the Reyvateil, which ends structuring that mere data listing into a world with a definite purpose. So in the end, it changes due to the occasional feelings of the Reyvateil. So naturally, if a precious person died in an accident, the Cosmosphere would suffer a change according to the magnitude of such an incident. However, the world of the Cosmosphere they had reached so far won't change. If they managed to reach Lv. 5, that's the level from where they will start. However, the story in that Lv. 5 will develop slightly differently from how it was prior to the shock the Reyvateil received.


・投・稿・!
ツッコミオリカでルカさん脱ぐのは…って言ってますけど、あなたレベル8で全裸だったのでは…
ルカさんそのへんどうなんですか!?
(えらっち)

This-is-my-first-submission!
In the Tsukkomi Aurica, Luca said she would strip... but what are you saying, if she was fully naked in her Lv. 8...
What's up with that way of acting, Luca!?
(Eracchi)

Luca(adult)14

ちょ、ちょっと!全裸になってなってないよう!ちゃんとバスタオル巻いていたじゃない。
もーう!人を変な人みたいにいわないでよぅ…。そ、それに精神世界の中と現実とでは全然違うし…。

W-wait a sec! I never got fully naked! I'm sure I was wearing a bath towel around myself in there.
Ugh! I never said that so everyone saw me as a pervert... A-and besides, what happens inside the Soulspace has no relation to what happens in reality...

Jakuri1

でも一つ言えることは、「素質十分」って事ね。
精神世界はあくまで自分自身だし。

But there's one thing that can be said about it, and it's "full character".
In the end, the Soulspace is your entire self.


の管理者であるシュレリア様は、塔内の情報を介してレーバテイルの状態をなんとなくは把握できると思うのですが、それによってメタファルスの存在は把握していたのでしょうか? 同じ塔から導力を受けている場所ですし、現にサスペンドの影響が出たりと何気に近しい存在だと思うので知っていて当然な気がするのですが。
(咲也)

As the Tower Administrator, I thought that Lady Shurelia should be able to grasp the status of the other Reyvateils via the information flowing inside the Tower, but couldn't she have grasped that Metafalss existed like this? Since it's a place that receives Symphonic Power from her same Tower, to the point in which it was even affected recently by Suspend, I naturally felt that it might be a even closer existence than I thought.
(Sakuya)


Shurelia0

すみません、それがわからないんです…。私の場合、塔とのリンクは全部手作業で行っていたこともあって、10%程度しか行われていないんです。自分が管轄する予定だったARTONELICOサーバーだけでも把握は十分ではないのに、おとなりのSOL=MARTAサーバーの事なんてわかりませんでした。同じ塔の中にある、物理的には1つに見えますが、情報的にはまったく別世界にあるんですよ。例えば、自分のホームページとお友達のホームページは全然URLは違うかも知れないけど、実際は同じデータセンターにサーバーが存在するかも知れませんよね?それと同じですよ。

I'm sorry, but I don't really know about it... In my case, my linkage with the Tower had to be done completely in a manual way, so my connection rate with it just reaches around a 10%. Although I was planned to have just the ARTONELICO Server under my jurisdiction, I don't fully grasp it either, while I didn't even know that the neighboring SOL=MARTA Server existed. They might be located in the same Tower, where they can be seen as if they were a single physical structure, but as informational structures, they exist in completely different worlds. For example, let's say that your homepage and the homepage of one of your friends might have completely different URLs, but they both could be actually lodged in the same data center, correct? It's the same for both Servers here.

Shurelia4

それにしても、アルトネリコ3が出てから、皆さんのテクニカ魂に火が付いたみたいですね。これから先は、答えるのが本当に大変そうですね…。
そ、そういえば私、明日からしばらくテクニカルセンター休暇なんですよ?お留守の間はジャクリとか、きっと他の人が答えてくれるですから、みなさんよろしくお願いしますね!

At any rate, it seems that with the release of Ar tonelico 3, the Technical souls in everyone have gotten ignited again, huh? From now on, it seems like answering all of these questions will be truly difficult...
R-right, I'll be taking a short breaking from the Technical Center starting tomorrow. During my absence, I'll leave Jakuri and maybe others to answer on my stead, so I'll be counting on everyone!

Jakuri4

さりげなく逃げたわね…。

She ran away so nonchalantly, huh...?

Editor's Postscript

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アルトネリコ3発売後、初のトウコウスフィアとなりました!みなさん、プレイしていただいているみたいで、投稿の方も何と400通にも及ぶメールが届きました。嬉しい悲鳴でヒーヒー言いながら、皆さんのツッコミや質問が高度すぎてヒーヒー言いながら回答しておりました。アルトネリコ3のことを思いっきりお話しできるには、まだ少し時間がかかりそうですが、これからも皆さんとトウコウスフィアを盛り上げて行けたら嬉しいです。 (土屋)

And this was the first Toukousphere after Ar tonelico 3's release! It seems like you all gave it a try, as I got over 400 mails from our submitters in my mailbox. While I was so happy that I screamed "hiiihiii", I also ended up saying "hiihii" while making replies to your extreme straight man acts and the extremely high level of your questions. It seems like it'll take a little longer before we're all able to talk about Ar tonelico 3 all we want, but I'll be really glad when we manage to stir up the Toukousphere again.
(Tsuchiya)

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