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Hama3

私がタイトルコールしているけど、ここは投稿道場じゃないのよーーーー!!
そしてどんすけと違って、今回は私が回答しているからタイトルコールを任されているのよ!!
よく考えてみれば、私が投稿道場から外に出た事って、今までに殆ど無かった気がするのよ。
これは貴重な回なのよーーー!!

I have to do the title call, even though this isn't the Submission Dojo!!
And unlike Don Leon, this time I was asked to answer questions as well as doing the title call!!
Now I think about it, it feels like I've never really gone out of the Submission Dojo, right?
That makes this issue a very important one!!


し、詩魔法サーバーが効果範囲外でRT質が休眠状態に入っている第三世代I.P.D.RTがいたら、彼女にダイブすることはできないのでしょうか?

(きむら秀一)

If a Third Generation or IPD leaves the range of her Song Magic Server and gets her RT qualities put into a latent state, would it be impossible to Dive into her?
(Kimura Shuuichi)

Jakuri0

回答から言えば、出来ない、というのが正しくなるかしらね。
いわゆる「塔と交信できない状態」にある為、ダイブは出来るけど何もない状態というのが一番正解の答えなんだけど。もっと簡単に言えば、真っ白だったり真っ黒だったりする、という事になるわ。データ的には「00」の羅列ね。
ただ、アクセスポイントに当たるインストールポイントがあるから、ダイブ自体は可能ね。でもダイバーは、五感に何も感じない世界にただ一人存在することになるわ。真っ暗い中で宙に浮いている状態、というのかしら。
少し影響圏内に入ると、ちょっとだけ世界が見えてくるわね、完全じゃないけど。感覚的にはテレビと電波の関係に近いのかしら。

If I had to answer, I think it'd be correct to say that Diving into her would be impossible.
Since she would be in a "state where she can't communicate with the Tower", the most correct answer would be that she would also be in a state where a Dive could be conducted but it wouldn't be possible to do anything in it. To put it more simply, it would be a complete blank or complete black world, which in terms of data would read as "00".
Still, since the Install Port also serves as an access point for the Soulspace, the Dive itself would be possible. However, the Diver would end up completely alone in a world where they wouldn't be able to get any sensory data from their five senses: they would end in state similar to floating in a completely black void.
If the Reyvateil gets a bit inside the range of the Server, it would be possible to see a small part of her world, but not the entirety of it. Maybe it'd be sensible to compare it to the relationship between a TV and the electromagnetic waves.


クニカルサービスセンター宛です。

原初の音源エクサピーコは現在、どのような状態で存在しているのでしょうか。大きさをもたない点として宇宙の中心にあるのか、三次元より高位、11次元などに存在しており三次元宇宙ではその射影が背景放射というエネルギーの形で観測されるにすぎないのか、あるいは波動の振幅に伴って三次元空間に出現したり消えたりするのか、それともエクサピーコ自身が膨張したものが宇宙であり、アルシエルもすべてエクサピーコに内包されているのか。
波動の伝達に媒質が必要であるのか、それとも波動がミクロでは粒子的にふるまうと見なすべきかという波動学の根幹にも関わる問いかと思いますので、よろしければ答えていただけると幸いです。
(真田薫子)

For the Technical Service Center.
In which kind of state does the sound generator of origins, EXA_PICO exist right now? Does it exist as a point at the very center of the universe whose dimensions we can't even fathom; or does it exist as an 11-Dimension being, of an order far higher than us three-dimensional beings which can only be observed in the three-dimensional universe as the energy it emits in the form of background radiation; or does it appear and disappear from the three-dimensional space depending on certain wave amplitudes; or does EXA_PICO itself keep expanding, and the universe and everything it comprises, including Ar Ciel is contained within it?
(Sanada Kaoriko)

Shurelia0

エクサピーコに関しては、現在のソルシエールの科学ではまだ完全には解明されていません。単純に、このような感じなのではないか、という憶測でしかないのです。エクサピーコ自体は3次元的なものではないため、3次元世界ではそのすべてを見ることは不可能であると言われています。現在我々が観測に成功している波動は、D波、H波、N波など、全部で10種類程度存在しますが、その機能と法則が明確に分かっている波動はD波とH波だけであり、それ以外は全くわかっていません。
更に、我々のいるアルシエルの外には、更に100を越す波動形態が存在し、その外側には更に多くの形態が存在しています。ですが、それらの全ては3次元世界で見ることはできません。アルシエルは、エクサピーコを基点とする波動を相当な段階中継した波動によって形成されていますので、アルシエル、そして我々はエクサピーコに内包されている、いえ、厳密にはエクサピーコの想いそのもの、エクサピーコの妄想であると言っても過言ではありません。
余談になりますが、貴方が脳内で架空世界を想像して、そこに人を置いたとしましょう。それは貴方の脳内でエクサピーコと同じ行為をしている事であり、例えその妄想が一瞬だったとしても、脳内の想いの世界の中では人が息づき、悠久の刻を作るのです。
すなわち世界はフラクタル的な構造になっていて、その波動成分と規模は極端に違いますが、出来ること、やっていることはエクサピーコも人も同じであるわけです。この世界は「無限のマトリョーシカ」とも言える構造をしているわけですね。波動の伝達に必要な媒質は、現在のところ見つかっておりません。波動の粒子性に関しましては、少し解釈が異なっています。
この世界の理論で言えば、波動は高エネルギーとなったときに特定の波動格子パターンを形成することで大きな反発力を持つことが出来、それは他の特定格子パターンの波動を退ける性質を持っています。その反発力はコリジョン(衝突面)となり、それがいわゆる「物質」として認識される、という考え方が定説となっています。
満足いただける回答になっているかわかりませんが、どうでしょうか…?

We still haven't been able to fully comprehend EXA_PICO with the science level that Sol Ciel has at the moment, so anything we can say about it is reduced to simple speculation. EXA_PICO itself isn't a three-dimensional object, so it's said that we can't observe it in its entirety from the three-dimensional world. So far, we have successfully identified around 10 different waves types from it like D, H and N-Waves, but we only understand clearly the functions and rules that govern D and H-Waves, so the others are a complete mystery to us.
Furthermore, leaving out our planet Ar Ciel, there is a number of waveforms that surpasses the hundreds, and leaving them out there is also an even larger variety of shapes to them. However, not all of them can be observed from the three-dimensional world. Ar Ciel is formed from the waves that were relayed to an appropriate level from the ones that have EXA_PICO as their point of origin, so Ar Ciel itself and we, the people living in it are included inside EXA_PICO... or more strictly speaking, we are included inside the feelings of EXA_PICO itself, so it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say we are all the delusions of EXA_PICO.
And if I'm allowed to make a digression, try imagining a fictitious world inside your mind and placing people on it. When you do that, you would be doing inside your brain the same act that EXA_PICO is always carrying out, so even if that delusion only lasts for a second, you have created an eternal instant in which the people in the world of feelings inside your brain are living.
That is, the world is structured in a fractal-like manner, so while the waves composing them and their respective scopes might be extremely different from a part to another, the capabilities they have and the acts they carry out are all the same from EXA_PICO to the humans. We could also say that this world has a structure similar to an "infinite matryoshka". However, we still haven't found the medium the waves need to be transmitted. However, there is also the little explanation that the waves behave like particles in our world.
If I had to state an established theory about this world, it would be the following: when waves have become bodies of high energy, they can gain a strong repellent force from forming specific wave patterns, which also gives them the property of repelling the waves from other patterns with specific shapes. The collisions between these repellent forces are what we recognize as "matter".
I don't know if this answer will satisfy you, but... how was it?


んすけに聞きたいことがあります。

どんすけは一度、オリカのコスモスフィア内で消えてしまい、現実世界でライナーに頑張ってもらったことによって復活しましたが、仮に、ライナーが頑張らずにいたらどうなっていたのでしょう?
オリカの中で心の護が永久不在になるのか、それとも「どんすけ」以外の新しい心の護が産まれるのか、どちらなのでしょうか?
(咲也)

There's something I'd like to ask Don Leon.
Don Leon once disappeared inside Aurica's Cosmosphere, and he was revived thanks to the efforts Lyner made in the real word. However, what would have happened to him if Lyner didn't make these efforts?
Would Aurica have stayed without a Mind Guardian forever, or another Mind Guardian that wasn't "Don Leon" would have been born?
(Sakuya)

Don Leon1 拙者に質問とな!!!

あまりの事でビックリしすぎたわ!!
拙者が消えるとどうなるか、という事に関してであったな。衝撃的な事かも知れないが、拙者が消えたというのは、すなわちオリカさんの持つ一面でしか過ぎないのだ。少々難しい話になるが、それはすなわち、オリカさんの潜在意識の中で、ライナーに向けたどんすけが消えた、という事に過ぎないのである。
拙者が本当に消えて無くなるときは、オリカさんが潜在意識レベルで拙者のことを忘れてしまった時だけだ。ただ、例えライナーに向けた拙者が消えただけであっても、その影響力は全体を消してしまう恐れも有るのである。
それは、例えばライナーが拙者やオリカさんと何か衝突があり、それによって傷ついた場合、オリカさんが拙者を忘れようとして、結果拙者が消えてしまうことはある。
ただ、ライナーが頑張らなかった、もしくはライナー向けの拙者が消えた状態で放置していただけの場合、大方問題はない。だがもし、大きな心の傷を負ってしまい、オリカさんの中で拙者を全否定する事が有れば、拙者は消え、新たに心の護が作られることもあるであろう。そうならない事を祈るばかりだが…。

You're asking me that!!!???
That surprised me a lot too!!
And there's something that happened related to how I disappeared. This might be shocking, but the fact I disappeared was no more than one of Miss Aurica's facets. It might be a little hard to explain, but in short, the Don Leon that was aggressive to Lyner disappeared from Miss Aurica's subconscious.
The only time in which I would really disappear for good would be when Miss Aurica forgot about me at a subconscious level. Still, since the me that was aggressive to Lyner disappeared, I fear that his influence could cause me to disappear entirely.
That would be the case if Lyner somehow caused me or Miss Aurica a tremendous shock, and that wound caused in turn to make Miss Aurica forget about me. In that case, I would vanish entirely.
But even if Lyner hadn't made that effort or if he had left the aggressive me disappear without doing anything about it, it wouldn't be a large problem. However, if Miss Aurica sustained a large wound in her heart and completely rejected me from the inside, I would disappear and a new Mind Guardian would be born to replace me. I can only pray that never happens...


まで出てきた心の護が全体的に小型ばかりですが、大型の心の護っているんですか?(シャドウ・ミュール的な)もしいたらコスモスフィア内で目立ちますね。

(力イル)

All the Mind Guardians that have appeared so far have been very small, but it's possible for them to be large? I'm guessing the would be very conspicuous in the Cosmosphere if they were so large (like Shadow Mir-level large).
(Kyle)

Hama0

心の護最小サイズの私が答えるのよ!!
理論上は大型の心の護はいないことは無いのよ。ただ、心の護が形成される時点(幼少期)で見える世界はそれほど大きな世界ではなくて、大抵自分に身近なものが心の護になるから、物理的に巨大なものが心の護になることは滅多に無いと思うのよ。
貴方達の世界でいえば、例えばテレビを見ていて怪獣が出ていて、その怪獣が何らかのきっかけで心の拠り所になれば、それは巨大な心の護になる事はあるわ。
でも、そもそもテレビの中の人のような、単方向的、仮想的なものは心の護になりにくく、故に、あまり現実離れしたものが心の護になることはないのよ。

I'll answer this question about the Mind Guardian's size!!
Theoretically, there's no limit for how big a Mind Guardian can be. But since people usually don't have the chance to see a very large world during the point in time when Mind Guardians are born (during early childhood), Mind Guardians generally end up being based off items that are familiar to them, so I don't think it'd be rare for something physically large to become Mind Guardians.
To give an example from your world, let's suppose you're watching TV and a monster comes out in a show, and if that monster ends up becoming something in which your heart relies for some reason, it'd end up becoming a gigantic Mind Guardian.
But since the people in the TV can only say but not listen to things, it's pretty hard for fantastical things to become Mind Guardians, which is why you'll rarely something unreal as a Mind Guardian.


T質の発症と共に習得しているヒュムノス、この時点でのヒュムノスにはもうすでに中央正純律や新約パスタリエなどの流派があるのでしょうか。

(無字)

About the Hymmnos that is learned when a RT has her qualities awaken, is it established by that time if she'll be attached either to Central Standard Note dialect or the New Testament of Pastalie dialect?
(Muji)

Infel0

流派は存在するわね。というか、そもそも根本的に順番が逆なのよ。
レーヴァテイルのSHサーバー(精神世界)は、ヒュムノサーバーと直結していて、ヒュムノスの検索機能が付いていると思って頂戴。
あるヒュムネクリスタルをダウンロードすると、まずはSHサーバー内に世界が広がり、それを言語化するために、最もそれを表現していると思われる単語をヒュムノサーバーに取得しに行くわ。その時の検索方法には流派は関係ないのよ。そもそも流派というのは簡単に言えば単語セットのようなものであり、格納されているパックアドレスが違うだけで、機能的な違いは無いに等しいのよ。
だから、結果的に取得してきた単語がその流派だった、というだけの事であり、レーヴァテイルが意識しなければいけないものではないわ。まあ、人によっては特定の流派が大好きでそこに傾倒していると、無意識にその流派が多くなる、という事も有るけど。
で、最初の質問に戻ると、上記理由よりプレインストールモデルでも、ヒュムネクリスタルのダウンロードでも同じ。流派は有るし、かといって意識するものではない、という事よ。
もちろん言わなくても分かると思うけど、新約パスタリエは例外よ。

It's established to which dialect she will belong indeed, but you have basically have the order reversed.
The SH Server (Soulspace) of the Reyvateils is directly connected to the Hymmnoserver, so please think of it as if they have an added Hymmnos lookup function.
Whenever a Hymn Crystal is Downloaded, first the world inside it is expanded into the SH Server, and then to put the feelings forming it into words, they draw the words they think will be the best for expressing it from the Hymmnoserver. So the lookup method used at that moment has nothing to do with the dialects. And anyway, the so-called dialect are no more than something like a simple set of words, so while it's somewhat different from them have a stored pack address, functionally it doesn't seem to be any different from that.
So ultimately, the words drawn out from the Hymmnoserver just belong to the dialect to which they belong, so the Reyvateil mustn't necessarily be conscious of to which dialect they belong. Well, there are some people that prefer using a specific dialect over another because they admire it or like it, so it's very frequent that they end up using the dialect they like the most unconsciously.
But going back to the original question, this works the same regardless of a song is Downloaded into a Reyvateil through the Preinstall Model or through a Hymn Crystal due to the aforementioned reasons. In short, the dialects do exist but the Reyvateil aren't necessarily aware about them.
And of course, even if I don't say it myself, I think you should know the New Testament of Pastalie is an exception to this.


Hama3

今回はすっごい濃いテクニカルサービスセンターになったのよ!!
これからアルトネリコ3も出ることだし、いまのうちに世界観を熟知しておくのよーー!!

We had a very deep Technical Service Center this time!!
And since Ar tonelico 3 is going to be released soon, make sure to get familiar with the currently know world setting!!

Editor's Postscript

というわけで、祝!新作発表!なのです。お待ちいただいていた皆さん、本当にお待たせしました。
現在、全スタッフ総力を上げて頑張っております!是非是非、期待しながら待っていてくださいね!
本当に死ぬ思いですが(笑)、本当にいいものにするために頑張っています。どうか、続編も含めてアルトネリコをよろしくお願いします!
(土屋)

And well, time to celebrate the announcement of a new game! To everyone who was expecting it, I'm very sorry it took us this long.
Right now, all members of the staff are putting all their efforts into the game! Please, make sure to look forward to it as you wait!
I'm really thinking I'm going to die (*laughs*), but I'll still do my best to make it into a truly great game. So please, make sure to enjoy Ar tonelico in its entirety, including this sequel!
(Tsuchiya)

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