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Toukou 08

Luca(adult)1

甘酸っぱい香りは、熟れたチェリーの誘い!

The bittersweet aroma is a ripened Cherry's invitation!
Cloche4a

落ち着いた大人の時間はヴィオールをまとって。
そう、今宵貴方に甘酸っぱい一時を与えるのは…

The calm adult times are enshrouded by the Viole.

Yes, tonight what shall give you a bittersweet time is...

Luca(adult)1

チェリー&ヴィオールの
テクニカルサービスセンター!!

Cherry & Viole's

Technical Service Center!!

Cloche5a

チェリー&ヴィオールの
テクニカルサービスセンター!!

Cherry & Viole's

Technical Service Center!!

Luca(adult)5

久し振りにやっちゃったね。

It's been pretty long since we last did this.
Cloche12

いつまで経っても慣れないし恥ずかしいわ。

But no matter how much time passes, it's still every bit as embarrassing as ever.



間ネットはレーヴァテイルの活動範囲を広げる、つまりレーヴァテイルと詩魔法サーバーとの通信距離を延長するものだと理解しているのですが、これによって第3塔の影響範囲にいながら第1塔属の第三世代が生まれるということはありえるのでしょうか?

(マトウィ)

I understand the Inter-Tower Network is supposed to increase the Reyvateil's active range, or in other words, to increase the distance in which the communications between the Reyvateils and their Song Magic Servers is possible, but would it be possible for Third Generation Reyvateils connected to the First Tower to be born in the Third, as its range doesn't reach Sol Cluster?

(Matwi)

Aurica10

塔間ネットにちょっとだけ関わったから、あたしが回答するよ。
塔間ネットが出来ても、やはり第3塔では第3塔の、第1塔では第1塔のレーヴァテイルになるよ。第3塔で第1塔のレーヴァテイルが出来たりはしないかな。
なぜなら、塔間ネットっていうのは、簡単に言えばローミングと同じ仕組みを取っているからなんだよ。みんなの世界で携帯電話から家電話に電話しても繋がるよね。でも、家電話を担当する電話会社に携帯電話の申込は出来ないし、逆もまた然り。要するに、第1塔のレーヴァテイルが第3塔で詩を紡ぐと、それは第3塔が一時的に処理をして第1塔に中継しているだけなんだよ。だから、レーヴァテイルを生み出す「抽選」はその塔の周りでしか行われないの。発症プロセスと詩魔法発動プロセスは全然違うものだからね。

Since I was a little involved with the Inter-Tower Network, I'll answer.

Even after the Network was made, only Third Tower Reyvateils will be born in Sol Cluster, and only First Tower Reyvateils will be born in Sol Ciel. So maybe it's impossible for First Tower Reyvateils to be born in the Third Tower.
This is because in layman's terms, the Inter-Tower Network is structured in the same way as a roaming system. You know how in your world you can call from a cellphone to a home telephone because they're connected, right? But while home telephone companies can't receive call requests for cellphones, the inverse is actually possible. This is the same as that: basically, when a First Tower Reyvateil is crafting Song Magic at the Third Tower, they're only having the Third Tower temporarily process its execution as a sorta relay for the First Tower. And that's why the "lottery" that produces Reyvateils can only take place around the First Tower. After all, the processes that cause Reyvateil qualities to manifest are completely different from the ones used for invoking Song Magic.



んにちわ、桜雪です。実は今回ヒュムネコードについて2の頃から考えていた疑問があったのでこちらに投稿しました。

オリジンやβは必ず自分のヒュムネコードを持っていますが、第3世代は混血の為持っている子はあまりいない。それでもし、偶然にもヒュムネコードを持つ子に別のヒュムネコードを(ヒロインに例えるならば1のオリカちゃんに対し、2のルカさんみたく彼女に誰かのDセロファンをDLさせる)手にした場合、その子に何かしらの影響はあるのでしょうか?
(桜雪慧)

Hi, I'm Cherry Snow. I've actually had a question about Hymn Codes from the time 2 was released, and I decided to send them here.

All Origins and βs must have a Hymn Code for themselves, but Third Generations don't have them because they're halfbreeds of humans and Reyvateils. But in the case of girls that got the Hymn Code from someone else by pure chance (the examples among the heroines being Aurica from 1, and in contrast Luca who had been made to Download someone's D-Cellophane), would it have any effects on them?
(Cherry Snow Wisdom)

Frelia0

Dセロファンを持てば、上書きされるよ。
というか、第3世代であってもみんな、実はヒュムネコードは持っているんだよ。例えばみんな、ネット上でIDっていうものを持っていると思うんだ。そのIDは「frelia」とか好きな名前がつけられるものも有ると思うんだけど、ヒュムネコードはまさにそれ。
オリジンとβは、制作者がちゃんとIDを入力して登録したもので、第3世代は元からそのメモリ領域にあった数値がそのままIDになっちゃってるもの。だから第3世代のIDは、いわば「r9cers$3df5%」とかいう謎な名前になっていて、それを確認する手段が無いから使えない、それ故に「ヒュムネコードを持たない」と言っているだけなんだよ。
だから、ルカちゃんも本当はそういうでたらめなヒュムネコードを持っていたんだけど、Dセロファンで私のヒュムネコードが上書きされたってわけ。オリカの場合はそれがたまたま「MULE_TEIWAZ_ARTONELICO」に近い名前になっていたってことだね。

If they have a D-Cellophane, it'll be overwritten.

And actually all Reyvateils actually have a Hymn Code, no matter if they're Third Generations or not. I think it's just like you all have an ID in the net. I think you also get the right to choose a name you like such as "frelia" for that ID, but Hymn Codes are basically like those.
Since in the case of the Origins and the βs that ID was input by their creators, the Third Generations would originally have an alphanumeric value in the memory region corresponding to it, and that'd be their ID. So the ID for the Third Generations would be something strange like "r9cers$3df5%", which can't be used due to it there not being any way to recognize them, and that's the entire reason for us saying they "don't have Hymn Codes".
So while Luca actually had a senseless Hymn Code like that originally, it was rewritten into my Hymn Code due to the D-Cellophane. As for Aurica, it's because her Hymn Code actually happened to be a character string that was identical to "MIR_TEIWAZ_ARTONELICO".



ュムノスは、強く感じたり物理的に影響を受ける詩ほど歌詞が長いのでしょうか?

「EXEC_HAIBANATION/.」とか「Ec Tisia」とか・・・
特に最終決戦の詩ほど長い気がします。
(にひみ)

In the case of Hymmnos, does the Song get longer lyrics the more powerful their effects are over the physical world?

Like "EXEC_HIBERNATION/." and "Ec Tisia"...
Which I particularly felt were as long as the final battle Songs.
(Nihimi)

Cloche1

そうね、実際に計ったことはないけど、感覚的にはそうなるような気がするわ。
あと、表現したいことや想いがいっぱいあると、どうしても詩は長くなってしまうわね。
ちなみにハイバネーションが長いのは、またちょっと違う理由があって、あの詩は沢山の人の魂の移行をしなければならないから、処理に時間がかかるのよ。それで、丁寧にじっくりと、念入りに歌っているという感じかしら。

You're right. While it isn't possible to actually measure it, it empirically does give off that sensation.

Also, if you have a large number of feelings you wish the express when you sing, that would invariably make the Song longer.
And as a matter of fact, Hibernation is so long because of a different reason: as that Song must transfer the souls from a large number of people, it executes a process that needs a large amount of time to complete. Therefore, I think it's a Song that must be sung carefully, slowly and attentively.



ュムノスの名前と言語についての質問です。

ヒュムノスの名前の多くは英語だと思うのですが、何か理由があるのでしょうか?プログラミング言語みたいに、そういうシステムだとか記述しやすい等?
あとアルトネリコの世界では英語と日本語はそれぞれ別の言語として確立しているのでしょうか?それとも日本みたいに元は英語だけど日本語として取り込まれているような感じでしょうか?
(ニャゴ)

I've got a question about the names of the Hymmnos language and the words used in them.

Several of the Hymmnos names seem to be in English, so there's any reason for that? Since it's similar to a programming language, is it easier to make descriptors for it and such with such a system?
And has it been established that the Ar tonelico world uses English and Japanese as entirely different languages? Or did it actually use Japanese originally but it adopted English as part of its main language like it actually happened at Japan?
(Nyago)

Shurelia0

ヒュムノスは特に英語は意識していませんよ。意図せずして似てしまっている単語は有るようですが。
実際には、特に中央正純律では、「音をそのまま言語化したもの」になっている事が多いです。例えば「扉を閉める」が「バンシュ」であったり、「おめでとう」が「ヒュゥ」であったり。これは、感情を欠損無く伝えるには、感情がそのまま出力する言葉を当てるのが一番だからです。
あと、アルトネリコの世界では英語も日本語もありませんよ。もし本当にアルシエルの言葉が会話ウインドウに出てきたら、誰もゲームを進めることは出来なくなってしまいますよね?

We paid no particular attention to English for Hymmnos, and it's unintentional that there are words on it that resemble those used in English.

Actually, there are several cases in which the words are "the result of converting sounds into words right as they are", particularly in the Central Standard Note. For example, "closing a door" is "bansh" and "congratulations" is "phyue". This way, it's possible to transmit feelings without any sort of loss, as the greatest priority here was being able to output feelings into words right as they are.
Also, English and Japanese don't exist in the Ar tonelico world. If we actually had displayed the languages that are used in Ar Ciel for normal communication in the text windows, it'd have been impossible for everyone to progress through the games, correct?



タファリカは常にちょっとずつ色んなものが変化していて、それは大陸の広さや形状も例外ではないと言うことでしたが、

メタファリカはIPDが死亡等で減っていっても大陸を維持し続けられるのでしょうか
また、メタファリカを維持するIPDは代替わり等が出来るのでしょうか
代替わり等が出来なかった場合長くても100年位しか維持出来ないでしょうし流石に有りますよ…ね?
(トモロ)

Metafalica seems to be undergoing all sorts of small changes all the time, and I don't think the size and shape of the continent are an exception to this.

But how are they going to keep the continent existing when the IPD population begins decreasing due to death?
Also, would it be possible for something to take over the IPDs for preserving Metafalica?
If it wasn't possible to do that, the continent wouldn't be able to exist beyond around other 100 years... right?
(Tomoro)

Luca(adult)0

大丈夫! I.P.D.は新しく発症したら、その瞬間からメタファリカと繋がるから…。というか、発症する=メタファリカ、といった方がいいかな。
何にしても、I.P.D.はインフェル・ピラが稼働する限り発症するし、絶対的に人が足りなくならなければ維持し続ける事になるよ。
だからそのうち何世代も過ぎて、I.P.D.とメタファリカの関係が曖昧になってきたりしたら、I.P.D.は大地と繋がっている神の子として今以上に「神がかったもの」として崇められるかも知れないし。
逆に戦争とかでメタファルスの人達が減っていくと、同時に大陸もどんどん小さくなっていく感じだよね。

It's fine! Whenever new IPDs awaken, they'll be instantly connected to Metafalica... or we could also say that their awakening makes them part of Metafalica.

Anyhow, as long as Infel Phira continues working and new IPDs awaken, we'll never have a shortage of people who will keep the continent existing.
So even if many generations pass after this and the connection between the IPDs and Metafalica becomes all mysterious, the IPDs could end up being revered even more than today's "beings supported by the Goddess" and turn into the Children of the Goddess that are connected to the land.
On the other hand, if we had a severe population decrease due to a war or something, the continent would also get smaller and smaller from it.

Editor's Postscript

Tks header 06

だいぶ暖かくなってきました。ゴールデンウィークもあと週末を残すのみとなってしまいましたが、皆さんはどんなことをしましたか?
私は相も変わらず仕事でずっと修羅場っていて、一応休みですが寝ても醒めても企画を出したり書類にまとめたりの毎日です。休みが終われば仕事もまた本番に戻りますから、そろそろ気を引きしめていかないといけませんね。
皆さんも十分に英気を養って、ゴールデンウィーク後の活力にしてくださいね。
(土屋)

It's gotten pretty warm lately. There's only one more week left before the Golden Week, so what will be your plans for it?

I'm having the workplace turn into chaos like always at the moment, so while this should be a time for resting, I'm having to write up design documents and compile them everyday regardless of if I'm awake or asleep. Once the rest time ends, I'll have to go back to work like usual, so I can't let my attention wander away for too long.
Everyone, please make sure to get plenty of rest so you can have lots of energy for after the Golden Week ends, okay?
(Tsuchiya)

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