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Toukou 08

Luca(adult)1

ルカの、ダイバーズセラピによるテクニカルサービスセンターだよっ!
今回はなぜか、ダイバーズセラピ関連の質問が沢山来ていたから、私がここを引き受けることになっちゃった。
それじゃ今回も元気に行こうね。GOGO~!!

Time for Luca's Dive Therapy-based Technical Service Center!
For some reason, we got a lot of questions about Dive Therapy this time around, so I ended up being responsible for the corner this time around.
Well, let's get started as cheerfully as we can. Go Go~!!



ータやオリジンなどの製造する際の、レーヴァテイルの容姿や性能などの設計データはDセロファンに記録されているのですか?それともバイナリ野のようなサーバー上に記録されているのですか?

(ババンゴ売り)

When a Beta or Origin is made, is her design data, like the one which controls her appearance and ability, recorded in the D-Cellophane? Or is it recorded in Binary Field-like Server?

(Babango Seller)

Shurelia0

容姿の雛形はDセロファンに記載されています。それを元に培養槽がエネルギー制御などをして、実際のボディを形成します。ですから図面はDセロファンという事になりますね。性能も、あまり細かい所までは決められませんが、やはりDセロファンで決定します。SHサーバーとのリンクは素体が完成する頃に行われますから、ボディ生成に関与することはありません。
ただ、もちろんそれは初期状態ですので、後に若干の変更はききます。ボディに関しては特に、第三塔のレーヴァテイルだけはSHサーバ内にボディデータを格納するワークエリアを追加されていますので、有る程度自由に変形可能です。

The design for her appearance is recorded in the D-Cellophane. It is from it that the energy poured into her Nurturing Tank gets regulated to actually give form to her body. Therefore, we could say that the D-Cellophane actually works like a blueprint for us Reyvateils. And while the abilities aren't actually set up to such a detailed degree, they are also set up in the D-Cellophane. The linkage with the SH Server is done when their prime field is completed, so it has no bearing on the formation of the body.

Still, that of course is just the preset information, as it can be modified later on. This is especially true for the body data in the case of the Third Tower Reyvateils, as since their body was stored as an additional work area inside the SH Server, they can freely change their bodies to a certain extent.



っきアルトネリコの設定資料集を見てて気になることがあったんで投稿します

敵キャラクターのにょ?の説明に「尻尾の先がグラスノ袋(中略)攻撃に使ったりします。えろい。」って書いてあるんですが、にょ?はえろいんですか?もしえろいならどうえろいんでしょうか。
本当に気になります
(711年へレスの戦いワリード1世)

I'm submitting a question about something that caught my eye while I was flipping through the Ar tonelico Setting Materials Collection book.

In the explanation for the enemy "Nyo?", it says "It uses a Grathnode sack at the tip of its tail (omitted) to attack. It's a pervert", but are Nyo?s perverts? And if they are, on which way? I'm really interested in hearing about it. (Walid I, Battle of Helles, 711 AD)

Spica(At2)0

目の付け所がいいわね。
実は「にょ」の初期設定は、ゲームに実装されている設定とはだいぶ違うの。企画当初の「にょ」は、『男キャラには攻撃するが、女キャラは回復魔法で回復してくれる。回復はしっぽを伸ばして、女性の身体にすりすりすることで行われる。えろい。』という設定だったのよ。その後、大人の事情やら何やらでこの設定は不可能になり、今の謎行動な「にょ」になってしまったというわけ。

You have a nice attention to detail.

Actually, the original setting for the "Nyo?" ended up being different from the setting they ended having in the game proper. The original idea for them was that they "would attack male characters and heal female characters. The healing would be done by extending their tails and groping the girls' bodies. How perverted". However, using that setting ended up being impossible due to several adult circumstances, so that's how they ended becoming the random-acting "Nyo?" you all know.



ロクシダイブについて質問ですが

クローシェのCSに入るためにルカのCSを経由したので、クローシェのCS1の内容は全部ルカに筒抜けだったのでしょうか? それと、ダイブ直後にクローシェからのクリティカルダウンをルカが無効化しているということはプロクシを挟めば高LVのCSへのダイブも安全になるのでしょうか?
(蛍火)

I've got a question about Proxy Dives.

Wouldn't the contents of Cloche's Lv.1 CS be completely exposed because they had to go through Luca's CS to enter in Cloche's? And would Luca be able to nullify any Critical Downs from Cloche after the Dive started, allowing the Diver to Dive into higher level CSs as long as they continued having a proxy in-between? (Firefly Light)

Luca(adult)0

んー、まあ、筒抜けといえば筒抜けかも。でも、通常プロクシダイブを行う場合、その(セラピストに心の中を覗かれる)事を患者さんに説明して、それに承諾してはじめて行われるものなの。
あと、必ずプロクシダイブをすればいいのでは?という質問なんだけど、それは難しいかな。私くらいのセラピストでも、相手の精神世界レベル1ですら全部見て回ることは出来ないし。クローシェ様のコスモスフィアだって、正直ストーンヘンジしか見ていないもの。相手の精神世界をくまなく見渡すのって、人間では不可能じゃないかなぁ。

Hmm, it's possible that a bit of it might have gotten exposed. But when a normal Proxy Dive is being conducted, the Therapist must explain these things to the patient (that their minds might be seen by the Therapist), and thus can't begin if both parts don't consent to it.

About if you'd be okay as long as you used a Proxy Dive, it's very hard to answer that, as even a Therapist of my level isn't able to completely see the first Soulspace level of the patient. For example, I couldn't see anything of Lady Cloche's Cosmosphere aside of the Stonehenge. Maybe overlooking the entire Soulspace of the patient is impossible for us because we're human after all.



イバーズセラピは女性の利用客は、いないのでしょうか?

(必殺!遊び人)

There aren't any female customers in the Dive Therapy industry, right?

(Special Movement! Playboy!)

Luca(adult)3

もちろんいるよ。何人もの女性のセラピを手がけたことあるし。ダイバーズセラピが遠い存在の人には、何となく「いかがわしい」みたいな事を思われがちだけど、ちゃんと理解している人からは、男女問わずヒーラーとして見られているんだよ?

Of course there are. All Therapists are women to begin with. Since Dive Therapy seems so distant to a good part of people, there are some out there who think things like "it's so indecent", but to the people who actually get what the business is about, we're seen as healers who don't discriminate between men and women.
Skycat1

先輩! また久し振りにダイバーズセラピをお願いします!
とびっきり濃いやつプリーズ!

Milady! It's been so long, I wanna request a Dive Therapy session!

Please give me an extraordinarily deep experience!

Luca(adult)6

…空猫はもうブラックリストに載ってるでしょ? 出来ないよぅ。
前にダイバーズセラピしたとき、私の精神世界に居座ってずーっと出ようとしないんだもん。お陰でダイブ屋さんもラーおばさんも、私が失敗して昏睡したかもって、すっごく心配してたんだから。

...Maybe I should put Skycat on the blacklist already? But I don't think I can.

Last time she had a Therapy session with me, she said she was gonna stay inside my Soulspace and didn't seem like she had any intention of leaving. Thanks to that, the Dive Shopkeeper and Mrs. Lahr got pretty worried, as they thought I had failed and fallen into a coma.



魔法は、謳っているレーヴァテイルの想いにのみ依存する"存在"なため、そのレーヴァテイルが謳い続けている間しか存在し得ません。これを設定資料集では「自然の秩序を乱した形で生まれたため」と表現されています。

疑問なのですが、惑星アルシエル上の存在、人間を含む動植物や大地のような無機物に至るまで、それらは全てアルシエルの想いによって生まれたものです。言うなれば、「宇宙の自然状態を乱して生まれた」もののはずです。
であれば、惑星上の生き物はアルシエルの庇護下でしか存在し得ないのでしょうか? 人間が宇宙を目指し、惑星や恒星系を飛び出すことは、アルトネリコの世界観では不可能なのでしょうか?
(Letith)

Since Song Magic depends entirely on the feelings of the Reyvateil singing them to "exist", they can't exist except for the time in which the Reyvateil keeps singing. This was expressed in the Setting Materials Collection as them "distorting the natural order to allow them to exist".

Everything that exists on Planet Ar Ciel, from the animals including the humans to the inorganic parts of it including the land itself, are all born from Ar Ciel's feelings. In other words, they should be "born from distorting the natural order of the universe".

If that's the case, does that mean that the beings that live in Ar Ciel would be unable to continue existing without its protection? Wouldn't that make it impossible for humans to leave and head into space, flying off to other planets and star systems?

(Letith)

Ar Ru1

レーヴァテイルと人間の根本的な違いは、それが正規のものかシミュレートかという違いよ。簡単に言えば、私達惑星の意志と人間…更にはソル(太陽)の意志やエクサピーコに至るまで、それらは全て同じ世界に住んでいるけど、レーヴァテイルはそこには住んでいないの。どこにいるかというと、人間が独自にH波を発振作り出している空間…バイナリ野よ。だから惑星の意志は、レーヴァテイルを構成する物質(元素)を許容する事はできるけど、その想いについては許容することはできないわ。
あ、でも、ここでいう「許容」とは、「自然に存在させる」という意味であって、許容出来ない=排除する、という意味ではないわ。そこは誤解しないで。ただ、私達が自然に接する以上、レーヴァテイルの精神世界が人間の管理ナシで稼働し続ける事は出来ないの。それは、掃除機や冷蔵庫が人間の管理ナシに動くか否かという事と同じような解釈ね。私達にとっては、動いていようがいまいが掃除機は物質的に掃除機だし、レーヴァテイルは物質的にはレーヴァテイルだもの。
だから、簡単に言えば「繋がっていない」ということ。人間が作り出せる生命体で、私達と繋がれるのは、赤ちゃんだけよ。もちろんDNA操作によってクローンを作り出した場合も、それは私達と繋がっている事にはなるけどね。
ちなみに、もしアルシエルの人達が他の星に移住する場合、それは可能よ。更に、アルシエルが終焉を迎えてしまったとしても、アルシエルの子である人間達は消えない。なぜなら彼らは、アルシエルの子であると同時にソルの孫であり、エクサピーコの身内だから。他の惑星に移住したとしても、きっとその惑星の意志は許容してくれるでしょうね。従兄弟みたいなものだから。そして実は私達も、そういった「従兄弟」を許容しているのよ。

The base difference between Reyvateils and humans is like the difference between a real fact and a simulation of it. To put it simply, we Wills of the Planet and the humans... going all the way to the Will of Sol (the Sun) and even EXA_PICO, are all creatures that exist upon this same world. However, Reyvateils don't live in this world. If I had to say where they live, it is an artificial space that was created by the humans making H-Waves oscillate in an independent location... which you know as the Binary Field. Therefore, while we Wills of the Planet can allow the physical substances (chemical elements) that compose the bodies of the Reyvateils to exist, we cannot do the same for the feelings forming them.

Ah, but while this "allowing" refers to "allowing something to exist in the natural world", not being able to allow something isn't equal to removing it from existence, so please don't misunderstand. Still, while they can directly touch everything that exists in the natural world, the Soulspaces of the Reyvateils can't continue operating without the administration of the humans. Due to that, we could interpret it as them being similar to refrigerators and vacuum cleaners, who can't move unless they are operated by the humans. To us, a vacuum cleaner is physically a vacuum cleaner, and a Reyvateil is physically a Reyvateil regardless of if they can move or not.

So, we could simply say they "aren't connected to us". The only life forms created by the humans that are connected to us are the babies. However, it's true that if they made clones through genetic manipulation they would be connected to us too.

By the way, about if the people of Ar Ciel ever migrated to another planet, it would be perfectly possible. Even if Ar Ciel meets its end, its children the humans won't simply disappear. This is because the children of Ar Ciel are also the grandchildren of Sol and are part of EXA_PICO itself. So even if they move to another planet, the Wills of that planet will surely accept their existence, as they are like its cousins. And since the life forms from that other planet are actually like "cousins" to us too, we would accept their existence as well.

Editor's Postscript

Tks header 06

5周年祭も終わり、皆さんの反響の大きさに驚いています。小説も、過去に例がないくらい注文が入っており、ガストショップでもビックリしております。皆さんのこうした「力」は、私達にとってモノを創る原動力になります。そしてアルトネリコでは、この正のスパイラルが良い形で働いていると思います。今後もこの「想いの永久機関」を維持していけるように頑張りますので、よろしくお願いします!
(土屋)

Now the Fifth Anniversary Festival has ended, I'm very surprised to see the large response we got from you all. Even the light novel has gotten an unprecedented number of preorders at the Gust Shop, so I got pretty shocked from that too. This "power" you all have is what becomes the driving force that compels us to continue creating. So I think I'd like to continue working in Ar tonelico to give form to this nicely shaped spiral. I'll continue working so we can keep "this perpetual motion feelings machine" working in the future, so please give us all your support!

(Tsuchiya)

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