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Toukou 08

Shurelia2

みなさん、大ニュースです!!
テクニカルセンター大復活!

We have great news for everyone!!
It's the great revival of the Technical Center!

Frelia1

今回はなんと、前回の10倍もの投稿があったんだよ!お陰でこのテクニカルサービスセンターも続けていける事になったよ。

Somehow, we ended getting ten times the submissions we had from the previous one! It's thanks to you all that the Technical Service Center can keep going!

Jakuri1

テクニカルサービスセンターは続けて欲しい、っていう投稿や御意見も沢山来ていたわね。寧ろ編纂室を潰…

It's because we got several submissions and opinions stating "I want the Technical Service Center to keep going." Or rather, they'd like to destroy the Compilation Roo....

Croix(knight)6

外コンテンツの話題はナシだ!

Don't involve any external contents in this!

Frelia1

というわけで今回は「ありがとう」の気持ちを込めて、いつもの倍の回答をするよ!

Well then, by putting in all our feelings of gratitude as we work in this issue, let's answer many more questions than usual!


ュムノス詠唱時の導体H波流量と出力される導体D波(詩魔法の威力)が比例関係にあるのはEXEC_HYMME/.(あるいはMETHOD_HYMME/.)の仕様なのでしょうか?

それとも詩魔法サーバーのプログラムアーキテクチャ上の仕様なのか、サーバーの物理的設計レベルの制限なのか、そもそも唱石がH波をD波に変換するプロセスの原理的制約なのか…
詩魔法が発動するプロセスの、どのレイヤーに因るものなのか教えてください
(Letiths)

Is EXEC_HYMME/. (and also METHOD_HYMME/.) structured to output Dynamic D-Waves (Song Magic power) depending on the amount of Dynamic H-Waves that were accumulated during the singing of a Hymmnos?
Or is it some kind of limit that comes from the programming architecture of the Song Magic Server, from the maximum amount of calculations the Server itself is physically designed to execute, or is it an inherent limit to the principle of the H-Wave into D-Wave conversion process used by the Songstones..?
Please tell me what kind of layers make possible the Song Magic execution process.
(Letiths)

Shurelia0

詩魔法が充填されるのは、想いの力である導体H波を、導体D波としてプラスしていくシステムになっているからです。ですから、瞬間想いが累積していくわけですね。
H波自体が累積しているわけではなく、D波エネルギーに変換して累積します。よって、想いの力が強ければ早く大きくなりますし、小さければなかなか大きくなりません。

Song Magic accumulates because it's formed by a system in which the Dynamic H-Waves that compose the power of feelings are added into it as Dynamic D-Waves. Therefore, the feelings can accumulate instantly.
However, this doesn't mean that the H-Waves themselves are accumulated: they are first converted into D-Wave energy. Due to this, it can grow faster if the power of the feelings becomes stronger, and it won't grow much if said power diminishes.

しもの話になりますが、XP様から見てクレンジングをしてた頃のVISTA陛下は正常動作してる様に見えますか?

また"めっ"する場所があるとしたらどの部分でしょうか?
特に惑星再生計画を断った部分を詳しく。
(ビタミン)

This is just a supposition, but did Lady XP see Her Majesty Vista as working normally when she was still in her Cleansing spree?
Were there any points where she wanted to scold her?
I'd also like to know more details on it, especially about the parts that made the Planet Regeneration Project impossible.
(Vitamin)

Harvestasha XP7

うーん、大変難しいところですが、テクニカルサービスセンターですから私的感情を抜きにして言えば、正常動作していたと確認していますし、異常動作ではありませんでしたよ。
異常動作というのは、例えばサーバーそのものに大きなダメージを与える様なプロセスが走ったりする自爆系、スキンや基本理念に与えられている「目的アルゴリズム」に対する行動矛盾の発生などの、自己解決できない矛盾系などがありますが、サブフレちゃんにはそのいずれも見受けられません。
惑星再生計画に関して言えば、それは「目的アルゴリズム」の1つであることには間違いないのですが、そもそもインストールされていたスキン自体にそれを無効化する処理が入っていた為、行動矛盾ではありません。

Hmm, this is a pretty difficult topic to discuss, but since we're in the Technical Service Center, right? Leaving my emotions on it aside, I acknowledged her as operating normally, and there weren't any anomalous functions being executed.
By anomalous functions I mean self-destructive behavior like executing a process that could cause severe damage to the Server itself, or the appearance of contradictory behavior that went against the "Goal Algorithms" given to her via skins and basic principles, all of which are problems that can't be troubleshooted automatically. However, I never saw Subframey having anything like that.
As for the Planet Regeneration Project, there is no mistake about it being one of the "Goal Algorithms", but since the skin itself that was installed into her included a process to nullify it, it doesn't count as contradictory behavior.

Harvestasha Vista3

ほら、妾は全然悪くない!質問者!お前にはクレンジングが必要ね!!

You see now!? I haven't done anything bad! It seems you need a good dose of Cleansing, insolent interrogator bug!

Harvestasha XP3

でも、クレンジングやあのスキンの基本理念と行動アルゴリズムは、めっ!対象ですよ!!

But the Cleasing, as well as the base principles and behavior algorithms of that skin are all worthy of a "shame on you"!!

Harvestasha Vista

…しゅん。
XPに人格を否定されたわ…。

...Ugh.
My personality was completely rejected by XP...

レイヴとかにいたクレンジングされた人々は、その後どうなったのですか?まさか、そのままってことは…

(ハーモニ)

What happened to the Cleansed humans that were in the Slave District? Don't tell me they were left like that...
(Harmony)

Gengai2

俺達が全員保護したぜ。まあ、劇中ではあまり語られなかったけどな。
クレンジングってのは極度な洗脳状態だから、個人差こそはあれ、回復した奴もいる。もちろん残念ながら、その後も社会生活が出来ないヤツもまだいるが…。まあそれでも、徐々にリハビリで回復していけるものではあるし、大牙に先生と一緒にリハビリ施設も作ったから、気長にやっていくさ。全員復帰するまでは諦めねぇよ。

We gave shelter to all of them. But well, I think it was never said during the game itself.
Cleansing's an extreme brainwashing state, so while it varies from a person to other, there were some few guys that could recover from it. And sadly, there's also some that don't look like they're gonna be able to have a normal life again... But still, we gradually give them rehabilitation and treatment so they can recover, and we've made rehabilitation institutions with some doctors in the Great Fang for them, so we just gotta be patient. I won't give up until everybody's back to normal.


リジンの記憶容量はどのくらいあるんですか?

シュレリア様を見る限り、最低1000年は記憶できないと後々困ると思いますが。
それとも必要性の無い記憶は消したりできるんでしょうか?
(リク)

How large is the memory space for the Origins?
As far as I see from Lady Shurelia, I'm very worried she won't be able to remember things from at least a thousand years ago in the distant future?
Or it's possible to delete unnecessary memories too?
(Liku)

Shurelia2

計測できないほど大きいですよ。

It's unfathomably large.

Jakuri1

あんたはほとんどROMじゃない……

Though it's almost entirely ROM, isn't it...?

Shurelia2

きゅっきゅっ♪
何か言いましたか?

Kyuukyuu♪
Did you say something?

Jakuri0

まあ実際真面目な話をすると、シュレリアはかなりガベージコレクション(メモリ最適化と不要な記憶の破棄)を徹底する様にプログラムされていて、過去の記憶は歴史的事実を除いては全て削除されていくのよ。
要は感情的記憶や感覚といったものが、一番リフレッシュ期間が短くて、次にトラウマや教訓などを記憶する学習系、事象からデータベースを作成する部分が最も長持ちする。
なぜなら、他にも色々理由はあるけど、感情系メモリが最も容量を食うのよ。もちろん感情系として削除されるだけで、「こんな事があって辛かった」ということは、事象データベースの中にコンパクトな形で移されていくから、その事自体を忘れたりはしない。ただ、他人事のようになってしまうだけなのよ。

But seriously speaking, Shurelia is programmed just like a garbage recollection program (eliminates unnecessary memories to optimize memory use), so everything that isn't past memories or historical events gets deleted.
In short, things like emotional memories and sensations have the shortest refresh time, followed by study information memorized from traumas and lessons, and they are most long-lasting memories among all the ones that form her memory database from her personal experiences.
So while there are several other reasons, emotional memories are the kind that eats up the most space. Of course the garbage recollection program just deletes the emotional data from her memories, so since things like "this was so sad" end up turning into a more compact form inside the event database, she won't forget the events themselves. Still, it'll be to her as if these events had happened to someone else.

Shurelia2

…きゅ?

...Kyu?

Jakuri3

なんだかシュレリアが哀れに思えてきたわ。
少し大切にしてあげようかしら。

For some reason, I'm beginning to feel a lot of pity for Shurelia.
Maybe I should treat her a little better.


1塔ではエル・エレミア教会と天覇、第2塔では大鐘堂と神聖政府軍など、それぞれの組織に雇用されるのと引き換えにダイキリティを入手していたのだと思うんですが、第3塔ではどうやってダイキリティを入手していたんでしょう?

特には第3世代を保護したり、大量に雇用するような組織は無いと思うんですが・・・
(リク)

The Church of El Elemia and Tenba in the First Tower, and the Grand Bell and the Sacred Army in the Second Tower, give Diquility to the Reyvateils in exchange for joining their ranks, or at least I think that's how it was. But then, how do Reyvateils get Diquility in the Third Tower?
Especially because I don't think there's any organizations that can employ and protect a large number of Third Generations...
(Liku)

Hikari Gojo10

アルキア研究所がダイキリティを販売していますよ。非現実的な価格ではありませんが、それでも不治の病で通院するくらいには費用がかかりますから、負担はそれなりに大きいです。
私の妹も、その経済難が理由でダイキリティを購入出来ず、「ブロッキング手術」を受けて……。ブロッキング手術というのはレーヴァテイル質を潰してダイキリティの投与を不要にする手術ですが、その技術自体は素晴らしい物ですが、アルキアはそれと凶悪きわまりない実験を抱き合わせにしていたところに問題があります。
話が少しそれましたけど、第三塔では恐らく第一塔よりはダイキリティの入手は楽ですが、第二塔のように支給されてはいませんでしたから、可もなく不可もなく、という感じでしょうかね。

The Archia Think Tank sells Diquility. It isn't sold at an absurd price, but since it causes large expenses to the Reyvateil comparable to the hospital visits anyone with an incurable disease would have, it's quite a heavy load to shoulder.
We were unable to buy my little sister the Diquility due to economic problems, so that's why she decided to receive the "Blocking Operation"... Since these operations completely suppress Reyvateil qualities, they serve as a method to not continue depending on Diquility doses, so while the method itself is quite wonderful, there's the problem that Archia fused them with their atrocious and inhumane experiments.
We got a little out of the topic at hand, but basically, while maybe it's easier to get the Diquility in the Third Tower in comparison to the First Tower, it isn't given for free like it's done at the Second Tower, so it's neither favorable or unfavorable for the Reyvateils.

さかのテクニカルサービスセンター休止の危機と聞き、そんなことさせてたまるか!!ってことで幾つかトウコウさせてもらいます

フレリアの趣味のヴィジョンダンスって何ですか?なんとなく残像とか出てそうなイメージがあるんですが
(リク)

When I heard the Technical Service Center was in risk of being taken down for good, I ended up saying a lot of submissions saying "You think I'm gonna let you do that!?"
What's the Visiodance that's said to be Frelia's hobby? Does it have any kind of image that would leave quite an imprint on others?
(Liku)

Frelia1

えへへ、応援してくれてありがとう!
ヴィジョンダンスっていうのはね、正式名称をEXEC_VISIONDANCE_SOCKET/.ってヒュムノスエクストラクトで、簡単に言うと第二塔を作るときに踊りながら歌ったアレのことだよ。
世界中で私だけが使えるエクストラクトなんだって。ティリアちゃんのリバーシアプロトコルみたいなものだね。
私が第二塔を紡いでいるのを、みんなは「天界妖精の舞」って呼んでいたみたいだけど、ちょっと名前の方が格好良すぎて恥ずかしいかも。

Ehehe, thanks for the encouragement!
As for Visiondance, it's formally known as a Hymmnos Extract called EXEC_VISIONDANCE_SOCKET/., and to put it simply, that's what I sang as I danced to create the Second Tower.
Visiondance Socket is an Extract that only I can use, similarly to how Tyri's Rebirthia Protocol works.
It seems that everyone gave the "Heavenly Fairy's Dance" name to the work I did to create the Second Tower, and while it's a pretty cool name, it's also a little embarrassing.

般のレーヴァテイルが限界まで訓練したとして、どの塔が一番早く詩魔法が使えるのですか?また、最短時間は何秒くらい??

(リザウド)

If normal Reyvateils trained to their limits, which Tower would have the fastest Song Magic users? Or how many seconds would it take the fastest singer to sing a Song?
(Rizaud)

Infel0

単純にパワー関係無しで「最短発動」で言えば、I.P.D.がダントツよ。例えば「cEzE(しぇぜ)」で一応何かを発動させる事が出来るわ。だいたい1秒切るくらいでしょう?
他のヒュムノスだと「Wee yea ra hymme」とかが最短構文になるから、2秒程度はかかるわね。その間に「しぇぜ」を5回は言えるわよね。
もちろんパワーとしてはライター程度でしかないし、一瞬で終わってしまうけど、単純に「速さ」だけで言えばこれが事実よ。

If we simply took in account the "shortest execution time" without factoring power into the equation, the IPDs would have the decisive lead. For example, they can invoke some kind of Song Magic by just saying "cEze (sheze)", and that generally takes about a second to pronounce, correct?
The shortest sentence for other kinds of Hymmnos would be something like "Wee yea ra hymme", which takes about two seconds to pronounce, and you can pronounce "sheze" about five times in that same span of time.
Of course that if we factor power in, it won't become so simple, so we'll leave this here for now. But if we only take account the "speed", it'd be just as I explained.


ルシエル再生おめでとうございます!!

再生された青い星に見せられてフッと沸いた疑問なんですが、メタファリカによって大陸を生み出したとき、そこに水資源となるものは存在するのでしょうか?
(炭策水素)

Congratulations for reviving Ar Ciel!!
I was so excited upon seeing the revived blue planet that I got a question: when the continent was created through Metafalica, did it have any kind of potential water sources?
(Sumisaku Suiso)

Infel0

メタファリカにとっては、空も風も土も水も全部、「循環」という命の営みによって構成されている、メタファリカ自体の身体そのものなのよ。
だから雨自体も、人間で言うところの胃液の分泌などと同じで、必要なときに必要なだけ降るわ。ここがメタファリカのすごいところなんだから。
ちなみに私達はアルシエルも人間と同じ「いのち」という考え方をしているわ。だから普通の雨も、アルシエルの代謝の1つとして見ているというのが常識なのよ。
貴方達の世界だと、大地と空気と雨は全然別のものとして捉えているみたいだけど、こっちでは全ては1つの意志によって統括的にコントロールされていると思われているのが常識よ。だから「メタファリカは単に土の大地を作る技術じゃない」って言ったのよ。

To Metafalica, the sky, wind and water are all constructed by the activity of life we call "cycles", so they are also parts of Metafalica's body itself.
So the rain itself could be equated to fluids the gastric juice secretions the humans have, so it only falls when it's required. That's what makes Metafalica so amazing.
By the way, we have the mentality of seeing Ar Ciel as a "life" like we humans are. Therefore, it's common sense for us to see normal rain as just one of the metabolic processes in Ar Ciel's body.
It seems like the land, skies and rain are perceived like completely different entities in your world, but to us it's common sense to think they are all controlled by the actions of a single will. That's why I said that "Metafalica isn't technology that creates mere lump of dirt".


謳う丘~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~」を聞いての質問なのです。「Afezeria HARVESTASYA」という曲の中でサラパトゥールという名の神が人間に介入していましたが、あれはアルトネリコ3に登場するサラパトゥール本人が人間界に降りて来た実話を基にしていると思っていいのでしょうか? また、神話の時代から、神として星の意志が人間に直接介入することはしばしばあったことなのでしょうか?

(咲也)

I've got a question after I finished listening to "Singing Hill -Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor-". In the song "Afezeria Harvestasya", it was said that a Goddess called Salapator intervened in the affairs of the humans, but would it be okay to think that she's the same person as the character Sarapatra that appeared in Ar tonelico 3, and that the legend was based on a true story of a time in which she descended to the human world? Also, did the Wills of the Planet, which were considered as Gods back during the mythological era, get their hands in the affairs of the humans a lot?
(Sakuya)

Sarapatra2

あの頃は若かったわね。私もまだ数千年前だったから、右も左もわからない子供だったし。でも今となっては良い思い出だわ。
ちなみに、私以外の惑星の意志もそうだけど、大昔は今以上に人間たちと交流があったのよ。交流というよりかは、まだ人間たちをサポートしていたという感じかしら。だから、神話となっている話のほとんどは実際にあった出来事が大元にあって、それが多かれ少なかれ脚色や曲解によって奇妙な話になっているものが多いわね。

I was young and naive back then. I was only a few millennia old back then, so I was a child who didn't know what was right or what was wrong. But now these have turned into very fond memories.
By the way, it seems it was the case for the other Wills of the Planet too, but a long time ago we used to establish contact with the humans much more frequently than we do now. That's why the myths are almost entirely based off events that actually took place, but they ended mostly becoming weird stories because they were dramatized and distorted to varying degrees.

Editor's Postscript

Tks header 06

現在ヒュムノスミュージカルを誠意制作中です。次回の編纂室でもう少し詳しく紹介しようと思いますが、今回は特に「歌と物語の融合」にこだわりました。ゲーム本編と同じように、特にAT2時代のノウハウを元に私自身が、楽曲の流れとセリフのタイミングを仕切りました。
ゲームのヒュムノスと同じ、それ以上の感動をお届けできたら良いなと思っています。それではまた次回!
(土屋)

We're doing our best in working on the Hymmnos Musical right now. I think I'll be giving a few details on it for the next issue of the Compilation Data Room, but this time around I got especially fixated on the "combination of songs and story". I directed personally the timing for the lines and the flow of the songs based on the know-how I got from the time I spent working in AT2, so they should end up being similar to the games themselves.
Since they should be like the Hymmnos from the games, I think it'd be great if they manage to reach your heart to the point of moving you a lot more. Well then, see you next issue!
(Tsuchiya)


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