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こんにちは、土屋です。
かなり寒くなってきましたね。皆さんもお体には十分お気をつけくださいませ。さて、本日は「アルトネリコ3ドラマCD side.ティリア」の収録があります。遂にエレミア三謳神(シュレリア、フレリア、ティリア)が一同に会する今回のドラマCD、他にもアルトネリコ2や1のヒロインたちも活躍します。今回は(ライトではありますが)世界設定的な要素が沢山あり、特にシリーズを通してプレイしていただいている方には楽しめるシーンが満載かと思います。いつものドラマCDとはちょっと趣向が違う今回のドラマCD、個人的には面白いものになったと思っております。もちろんティリアとアオトのラブラブも満載ですので、是非是非聴いてみてくださいね。

Hello, Tsuchiya here. It's gotten pretty cold, hasn't it? I hope you're all taking good care of yourselves. Well, today we had the recording for "Ar tonelico 3 drama CD side.Tilia". Finally, we've been able to record a drama CD where the Elemia Trio (Shurelia, Frelia, Tilia) all appear together; the heroines from Ar tonelico 2 and 1 also make their appearances here. There are a bunch of things that are relevant to the world setting in this CD (even if they're fairly light-hearted), and I'm sure that those of you who have been following the series for a while will enjoy a number of the scenes in this CD. The general feel of this drama CD is a little different from the others, and I think it's turned out to be pretty interesting. Of course, there's a lot of lovey-dovey scenes between Aoto and Tilia, so I hope you'll have a listen.

さて、今回も質問に回答させていただきました。次回の質問も受け付けておりますのでドシドシご応募下さい! といいつつですが、このコーナーは次回で終了予定です。長きにわたり、沢山のご質問ありがとうございました! 次の企画は更に皆さんと交流しながらお話しできる場を目指しています。どれほど実現できるかはわかりませんが、今後も皆さんとの対話を絶やさずにやっていきたいという想いは変わりません。コーナーが変わっても、末永くよろしくお願いします!

Now, then, I've done my best to answer your questions again this time. We'll be answering questions again for next time, so make sure to send us some! Though, having said that, the next issue will be the last time we run this segment. Thank you for all the questions you've sent us! I hope I'll be able to run another segment where we can communicate as well as we have in this one. I don't know how well it will turn out, but I hope we'll be able to hold a conversation like we have until now. Even if the nature of the segment changes, I hope you'll continue to follow our writings!

SHサーバーのレーヴァテイル登録限界って決まっているの?
新しいβを生産すると死亡判定されたアドレスに上書きされることがあるということはある程度の数の中から使い回しているってことですか
100年程度のサイクルで上書きされるってことはサーバー内のレーヴァテイル総数は結構飽和状態なのですかね
(アイン)

There's a limit for how many Reyvateils can be registered in the SH Server?
The creation of new βs and the overwritting of adresses for dead Reyvateils wouldn't give to the Server a heavy usage due to the number of deletion and writing cycles?
So if we take as an example 100 years of said cycles, wouldn't this oversaturate the Server with too many Reyvateils?
(Ain)

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メモリにも容量が有るように、登録には限界があります。
精神世界の容量は、ご想像の通りだと思いますがそれなりに巨大です。例えばアルトネリコなどに存在する政府公式のSHサーバー(簡単に言えばミシャなどが入っているSHサーバー=_ARTONELICO/.)で100万程度、大崩壊前の第一紀に盛んに起こっていた民間サーバーでは数千や数百しか登録できないサーバーも有ります。
ですので第三世代まで含めると、常に70%程度の稼動率でアクティブになっている感じになります。

Since the memory has a certain capacity, there's a limit for the number of Reyvateils that can be registered.
As you might be guessing, the capacity the SH Server has for storing Soulspaces is quite large, and as an example, an official government SH Server such as Ar tonelico (simply put, the SH Server in which Misha and the other Reyvateils of Sol Ciel are located: _ARTONELICO/.) has roughly space for a million of Reyvateils, while prior to the great catastrophe, during the First Era, private Servers were quite popular among the people, although their capacity varied from a few hundreds to a few thousands of Soulspaces.
Of course, the above count includes Third Generations as well, which means that around 70% of the memory is always working to its fullest.



ルシエルの昔の詩や昔話に関してなのですが、編纂室【第4回】にて『謳う丘 -Harmonics EOLIA-』が「その地方に伝わる誰もが良く知る詩」の一例として描いているとありましたが、『謳う丘 ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~』や『シャラノワールの森』、謳う丘のティリアやフレリアなども「その地方に伝わる誰もが良く知る詩」としてあるのでしょうか?
(ユキ)

I have a question about the ancient songs and legends of Ar Ciel. In the 4th issue of this same column, you told us that [Singing Hill ~Harmonics EOLIA~] was an example of [a song that everyone in that region would know pretty well], so songs like [Singing Hill ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor], [The Forest of Shelanoir], or Frelia's and Tilia's version of Singing Hill are also [songs that everyone in their respective regions would know]?
(Yuki)

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まず補足ですが、『謳う丘 -Harmonics EOLIA-』が「その地方に伝わる誰もが良く知る詩」の一例として扱っている、というのは、謳う丘EOLIAそのものが伝承詩として伝わっているわけではなく、Aメロ、Bメロなどのメロディが際立っている部分を伝承詩として設定している(簡単に言えば、謳う丘EOLIAは作中伝承詩を一部取り入れた楽曲として創っている)という形になっています。
謳う丘FRELIAやTILIA、ArCiel=ArDorも同様の設定感覚で作っておりますので、同様に詩の一部は伝承詩として存在していたと考えていただいて良いです。

First, I'll add something to that explanation: while we're treating [Singing Hill ~Harmonics EOLIA~] as an example of [a song that everyone in that region would know pretty well], that doesn't mean that the entire song of Singing Hill EOLIA itself is a folcloric song handed down in that area. The conspicuous parts of the melody, such as Melody A and Melody B were the ones we created as a folcloric song (to put it simply, Singing Hill EOLIA was created as if it was an expansion of a folcloric song from the game's world).
Singing Hill FRELIA, TILIA and ArCiel=ArDor were all created with these same feelings, so it's correct to consider them in the same way: that part of them exists as a folcloric song in each of the regions of Ar Ciel.



回の第七回でティリアのクラスタ式表記だけ文字化けしている様なのですが、今一度お教えいただけないでしょうか?
(八丈島のにょ?)

In the previous issue, it seems that the Cluster-style name for Tilia got corrupted, so could you please write it once again?
(Nyo? from Hachijou Island)

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第一水準漢字ではない為に、WEBブラウザでは表示できないようです。説明すると、「森」は木が3つで構成されていますが、これの「水」版です。水という字が下に2つ、上に1つという形の漢字です。音読みは「ビョウ」、訓読みは、「はる・か」、「ひろ・い」です。

That was because one of the kanjis used is a nonstandard one, so the web browsers couldn't display it. To explain it, you know how the kanji for forest (森) is formed by three kanjis for tree (木), right? Well, the missing kanji is the water (水) version of that: it has two small water kanjis at the bottom, and a large one in top. The on-yomi for it is [BYOU], while the kun-yomi are [haru-ka] and [hiro-i].



EXA_PICOの奏でる波動についてですが、2の設定資料集だとR波N波Tz波D波V波Vx波K波H波S波とありますが、CD『謳う丘~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor』 初回特典本のクリューエの記述で、EXA_PICOの奏でる波動には存在しない『U波』という物が出てきますが、これはどういった事なのでしょうか?
後、できればR波N波Tz波D波V波Vx波K波H波S波全ての正式名称や何を意味する波動なのかも解説が欲しいです。
(八丈島のにょ?)

In the Settei Book for Ar tonelico 2, we were told that the waves played by EXA_PICO were the R, N, Tz, D, V, Vx, K, H and S-Waves, but in the booklet that came with the first press of the CD [Singing Hill ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor], Clyuue was described as a being created by [U-Waves], which weren't among the ones mentioned previously. Why does this happen? And if possible, could you please mention and explain the names for the R, N, Tz, D, V, Vx, K, H and S-Waves?
(Nyo? from Hachijou Island)

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2の設定資料集は、EXA_PICOの奏でる波動のごくごくごくごく…一部の波動しか掲載しておりません。実際EXA_PICOは数え切れないほどの種類の波動を発しています。そのうちの20強の波動によって惑星が形成され、その中の7つの波動によって人間は形成されているのです。
波動の種類を1つ1つ説明するのは困難です。それは、全ての波動は「状態を周囲に伝達する」という目的でしかないからです。それはD波もH波もU波も他の波も全てそうです。
例えばD波は物質波と呼ばれていますが、それは我々がD波を目で見る事が出来(厳密にはD波の干渉によって消滅、反射したD波を目が計算する事が出来る)、D波の濃淡によって衝突が起こったり(これもD波の反発によるものです)する為です。
H波は声や想いになりますが、両方とも共通する事は、発信源の状態を広く拡散しているに過ぎないという事です。U波はそれを惑星の意志レベルが特に活用していますし、Tz波はアルシエルやソル(太陽)の航行に必要な波であり、Tz波の密度によって作られた坂やくぼみを惑星は転がっていきます(簡単に言えば…です)。またK波は植物の光合成に関係があり、太陽と植物の対話に使われる波ですが、これらTz波やK波などはアルシエルの文明では解明できていません。また、他の恒星系ではD波ではなくR波に生きる世界(R波が物質波になっている世界)もあります。それらの波は波としての物理特性や指向性が有るわけではなく、次元が違うだけであり、その世界でどのように使われているかはその世界(惑星系など)が決めているに過ぎないのです。
機会と需要があれば有る程度の波についての説明もしたいとは思っております。

When we wrote the Ar tonelico 2 Settei Book, we only mentioned an extremely, extremely, extremely... small part of the waves played by EXA_PICO. In reality, EXA_PICO emits a countless number of wave types. Among them, the 20 strongest ones are the ones that create planets, while only seven of these are the ones that give shape to the humans.
It would also be difficult to explain each of the wave types in detail, so the best I can do is explaining [how they are transmitted through the space], since that's what all the wave kinds have in common.
For example, while D-Waves are called the waves of matter, that is because we can see the phenomena caused by them with our own eyes (strictly speaking, annihilation caused by D-Wave interference, and D-Wave reflection are both events that we can measure), and because of the collisions caused by light and dark D-Waves (which is also caused by repulsion between two opposite D-Waves).
While H-Waves become voice and feelings, both of them have nothing in common beyond spreading greatly beyond their point of origin. U-Waves are similar to H-Waves, except for being used only by beings on the same level as the Wills of the Planet, Tz-Waves are waves essential for the trajectory of celestial bodies like Ar Ciel and Sol (the Sun): in other words, they are like the slopes and dents that indicate the planets where they can roll down (sorry... that's the simplest explanation I could come with for them). K-Waves are related to the photosynthesis performed by plants, and are the waves used by the plants and the Sun to converse with each other. However, the Tz and K-Waves are among the waves that haven't been explained by the civilizations of Ar Ciel yet. Also, there are also other star systems in which R-Waves live and D-Waves are inexistant (in other words, worlds where R-Waves are the waves of matter). However, it doesn't mean that these waves have any special directionality or physical qualities: they merely exist in separate dimensions, and how they will be used in each world is something that only these worlds (and their star systems) can decide.
If I ever have the chance and there's enough demand for it, maybe I'll give a more in-depth explanation about the waves.



ーヴァテイルは女性だけなので、ヒュムノスを謳うことが出来るのも女性だけという事ですが、
Ec Tisiaのように星の意志が紡ぐ「ヒュムノスでは無いが力を持った詩」なら那由他羅、紅禰命などの男神達も単体で詩を謳えますか?
(こぶら)

Reyvateils are female-only, and thus only women would be able of singing Hymmnos, but in the case of songs crafted by the Wills of the Planet like Ec Tisia, which are [songs that aren't Hymmnos but still have powers], would male Gods like Nayudara or Koudeinomikoto be able of singing them by themselves?
(Kobura)

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神々は特に女性形でなければ謳えないというわけではありません。
レーヴァテイルが女性だけなのは、「女性でなければ詩魔法を謳えないから」という理由によるものではありません。結果的に女性のみとなっているだけです。すなわち、その阻害要因がクリアできれば男性レーヴァテイルも存在していたことになり、謳う事は問題なく出来たであろうと思われます。
惑星の意志に関しては、そもそも男性形、女性形というもの自体を本来は持ち合わせておらず、中性です。人間に見える姿として降り立つときに男性か女性かを設定する形になります。
恐らく那由他羅、紅禰命は、大昔に地上に降り立ったときに男性形で降り立った為に男性神として崇められるようになったのでしょう。詩…といいますか、惑星の意志の詩はニアイコール言語ですので、当然謳う事が出来ます。そしてその詩には力もあります。

Even if there weren't any female deities, it wouldn't be impossible for them to sing the song.
Reyvateils may be female only, but they aren't so for such a reason as [if there weren't any women, Song Magic couldn't be sung]. It was merely because they ended up being female only. In other words, if the main inhibitors were eliminated, it would be possible to create male Reyvateils, and they wouldn't have any problems at all to sing.
As for the Wills of the Planet, they don't have anything we could classify as gender in the first place, and thus are genderless. When they descend to the world to interact with the humans is that they decide if they will take either a male or female appearance.
In other words, most likely Nayudara and Koudeinomikoto are revered as Gods just because they happened to take a male appearance when they first descended to the surface a long time ago. As for the Songs... well, the Songs of the Wills of the Planet are in the language they use to communicate between themselves, so naturally they can sing as well, and their songs would still have power.



1.半神は人間と惑星の意志を仲介する役目があるとの事ですが、惑星との対話を目的に生まれたティリアはいわば人工の半神と呼べる存在なのですか?
2.役目を終えた半神達はどうなるのですか?
3.FLIPに関してですが、FLIPは魂を代価に効果が発揮されるのですよね?作中のヒロイン達を見ると命を削って使用しているので、とても実用的に思えません。
FLIP系が完成していれば、そういった負担も軽減されていたのですか?
(ババンゴ売り)

1) Since the Demigods had the role of serving as intermediaries between the humans and the Wills of the Planet, could we consider Tilia as an artificial Demigoddess of sort, since she was created with the goal of conversing with the Planet?
2) Once their task was complete, what happened to the Demigods?
3) I have a question about FLIP. FLIP basically causes effects in the world at the cost of the singer's soul? Since the Heroines were pretty much spending their life to use it, I don't think it had many practical uses.
So if the FLIP-style Song Magic had be perfected, would it have a reduced burden on the singers?
(Babango Seller)

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1ですが、なるほど確かにそういう見方も出来ますね。ただ、半神というのは若干人間より能力は秀でていますが、それがどこなのか、そしてどんな特殊能力が使えるのかは半神によります。
半神が神(惑星の意志)とコンタクトできるか否かも、惑星の意志の設定次第です。ですので、ティリアは半神と言っても過言ではない能力を持っている事は確かですが、全ての半神がティリアと同じ能力を持ち備えていたわけではありません。
2ですが、役目を終えれば(といいますか、天寿を全うするか事故や病気で死ねば)半神は死にます。それは人間と一緒です。ですから、「特殊な能力の与えられた、神々の特注人間」という感覚が正しいです。
3ですが、第一紀のプロジェクトでは当然、FLIPがHYMME系詩魔法と同じくらいの負荷で謳えるようになるまで研究を続ける予定だったでしょう。世界崩壊などにマンパワーを割かれる事が無く、レーヴァテイルの研究を自由に続けられたのなら、FLIPのみならず、更にその先の詩魔法も登場していたであろうと思われます。現時点で実用的でないのは当然であり、実際の所「実験炉」で営業している原子力発電所のようなものです。

1) Yes, we could consider her in that way, too. However, if Demigods would have any abilities that would surpass that of most humans, what kind of abilities, and how they would use them, that would be entirely dependant on themselves.
For example, that Demigods were able or unable to contact the Gods (the Wills of the Planet) is something that was decided by the Wills of the Planet themselves. So while it wouldn't be an exaggeration calling Tilia a Demigoddess, due to having these special abilities, it would be a mistake to think that all of the Demigods had the same abilities as her.
2) Once their task was complete (in a way of speaking, regardless of if they died of natural causes, and accident or illness), the Demigods died. In that point, they were identical to the humans. Therefore, it wouldn't be wrong to consider them as [an special kind of humans that were bestowed special abilities by the Gods].
3) FLIP was a project during the First Era that was expected to have the same level of burden as HYMME-style Song Magics when the research on it advanced. However, due to the devastation of the world and other incidents, there was no possibility of sparing manpower to continue developing it, so if the research on Reyvteils could have been continued freely, and on FLIP as well, it most likely would have turned out to be the next generation of Song Magic. Presently, it doesn't have any practical applications because, naturally, it's the same thing as operating an [experimental furnace] as if it was a nuclear power plant.



つもこのコーナーを楽しみにしております。今回の質問は
1)前から気になったんですが、アルトネリコ2のオープニングはメタファリカで紡ぎだされる大陸創世のイメージが、3は惑星アルシエルがアオトたちとの対話(最終決戦で)によって大地の心臓を受け入れて再生してゆく様子のイメージが本になっていますが、1のオープニングは何のイメージが本になっているんでしょうか?
2)ヒュムノスコンサートの設定資料の「蒼天帝さん」と「サキさん」とのエピソード(空の守護者の創造の話)でサキさんは蒼天帝さんを兄のように慕っていたとありますが、本編で登場した他のアルシエル意思は皆女性でしたが、これってやっぱり人間から見れば女性(女神)の意思以外に男性の意思(男神)の意思も居るってことなんでしょうか(誤植ならこの質問はすっ飛ばしてもらって結構です)?
3)1、2と立て続けに格ヒロイン達の料理の腕前が披露されてきましたが3はそういったシステム(料理するイベント自体が無い)が無かったので結局謎のままだったんですが(辛うじてティリアさんのエンディングで彼女が料理上手(幼妻の最重要スキル特権?))なのが解りますが他のヒロイン(ココナも含めて)の料理の腕前の設定ってどうなっているんでしょうか?
長々となってしまいましたが宜しくお願いします。
(sasurainohito)

I've always looked forward to this corner. Here are my questions for this issue:
1) This is something that has worried me since some time ago: Ar tonelico 2's opening shows us Metafalica through the image of creating a land, while Ar tonelico 3's gives the image of Planet Ar Ciel accepting the Heart of the Land and being regenerated after its conversation with Aoto and his party (the game's final battle), so, which would be the image conveyed by Ar tonelico 1's opening?
2) In the story about [Saki] and [Soutentei] (The Protectors of the Skies) written in the setting materials of the Hymmnos Concerts, it's said that Saki loved Soutentei as an older brother, while all of the Wills of Ar Ciel that appeared in the game were female, so from the humans' viewpoint, there are both female Wills (Goddesses) and male Wills (Gods)? (If that was a misprint, please ignore this question).
3) Both 1 and 2 displayed the cooking abilities that each of the Heroines had, but in 3 there weren't any systems for that (there weren't any events involving cooking), so in the end, the cooking abilities for these Heroines were left as a mystery (Tilia's abilities was barely showcased as great in her ending (privilege because of being a gal wife?), but I'd still like to know how their cooking abilities are from the setting standpoint (including Cocona's).
Thank you very much for paying attention to such a long contribution.
(sasurainohito)

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1)ですが、正直に申し上げますと、アルトネリコ1のオープニングだけは、後の作品にあるような「コンセプトアート」的な要素はありません。1の開発当時は寧ろ、いわゆるアニメのOP系でコンテを切っており、2,3とはそのスタンスが違います。蛇足ですが、アニメ制作会社や監督さんも「1」と「2,3」では異なります。
2)ですが、上の方でも同様の質問に回答させていただきましたが、惑星の意志にそもそも性別は有りませんので、人間に見える形で存在する際に設定した性別が、後に人間に語り継がれる男性神、女性神になっていったというだけです。
3)ですが、ココナはクロアの手伝いを良くやっていたので、料理は上手な方です。フィンネルは、「アルトネリコ3ドラマCDsideフィンネル」を聴いてもらえれば料理の腕の程はお分かり頂けるかと思います(なかなか上手です)。サキはちょっと感覚ズレてる所がありますが、味に問題はありません。

1) Speaking honestly, Ar tonelico 1's opening was the only one for which we didn't have anything like a [concept art]. During 1's development, we decided it would be best to cut off any anime-styled OPs, which is why its staff differs from that of 2 and 3. It may be redundant to say this, but the producer and supervisors for the anime parts differ between [1], and [2 and 3].
2) This was answered in a similar question posted above, but the Wills of the Planet don't have any genders, and they were merely passed down as either Gods or Goddesses in the legends depending on the form they assumed when they first descended to live among the humans.
3) Cocona is pretty good at cooking because she helped Croix all the time to make their meals. As for Finnel, if you ever listen to the [Ar tonelico 3 Drama CD Side Finnel], I think you'll be able of learning how skilled she's at cooking (pretty good, actually). As for Saki, she may feel as the oddest among them, since she doesn't care much about the flavor of food.



々回の回答ありがとうございました。
① 確かにRTオリジンやβ純血種にとって食事は生存に必修ではないですが、もしオリジン(又はβ)が何か食べると、その食べ物は体内でどんな風に処理されるんですか。
② 謳う丘~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~(曲の方)の前半にアル・シエラが使われているようなところがあるんですけど、その用法がEc Tisiaの方と随分違うのは何故でしょうか。
③ ②と同じ曲に出る「那由他羅の旅」とは何でしょうか。もしかしてアルシエルの神話の一つですか?
(シナモン)

Thank you for answering all the questions over and over again.
1) Origin and Pureblooded β-type RTs may not need food to live, but if Origins (or βs) ever ate something, how that would be processed by their bodies?
2) Why the Ar Ciela used in the first half of Singing Hill ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (the song) it's so different from the one used in Ec Tisia?
3) In the same song as the second question, what does mean [depart in the journey of Nayudara)? Is that other one of Ar Ciel's myths?
(Cinnamon)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

1ですが、通常の人間と同じように処理されます。ただし代謝は擬似的なものですので、栄養分の吸収などは行われません。
2ですが、これはアルシエラではなく、律史前月読という言語体系です。人間が神に向かって対話しているもので、語源はアルシエラですが見よう見まねで作った言語ですので、アルシエラとは言葉や表記法はかなり変わっています。
3ですが、那由他羅とは「遙か遠い世界」という意味で使っています。こちらの世界でも「なゆた」という言葉がありますが、数字に直すと天文学的な距離になります。

1) It'd be processed in the same way as in normal humans. However, they actually have a fake metabolism, since their bodies are unable of absorbing nutrients.
2) That isn't Ar Ciela, and it's actually the language structure we call Carmena Foreluna. These represent the humans talking to the Gods, and since it's a language made by imitating Ar Ciela, it's very different from it when it comes to words and representation.
3) Nayudara is used in that phrase as a metaphor for [faraway world]. Even in our world there is the word [nayuta (myriad)], which is used in numbers to refer to astronomical distances.



回質問回答お疲れ様です
1)クローシェ(=レイカ)の誕生日は本編中ボカされていましたが、実際は何日(というよりどのような月の満ち欠け)だったのでしょうか?
2)ヒュムノス単語、中央正純律の「救う」には、ヒュムノサーバーを見る限り「swant」「suwant」の二種類があるのですが、これはどちらが正しいのでしょうか?
また以下は質問というより要望ですが…
・ヒュムノス文字・アルシエラ文字の書き順、あるいは書き方のコツのような講座
・澪~MIOにあるような、新約パスタリエの特殊な文法(AzzやYEzz、前に回答が出たXc=xxx -> yyyなど)の解説を載せて頂きたいです
・上記まとめてヒュムノサーバーの更新を……
前々回の投票を見るにあたってヒュムノスに興味のある人が多いようなので(私もその一人です)そちらの充実も図って欲しいなと思います
お忙しいとは思いますが、更新をとても楽しみにしていますので応援しております
(つばくらめ)

1) Cloche (Reika)'s birthday was obscured off in the game, so could you tell us in which day is falls (instead of in which moon waxing it does)?
2) About the Hymmnos language, as far as I can see in the Hymmnoserver, there are two Central Standard Note words for [save, rescue]: [swant] and [suwant], so which one would be correct?
Also, here I have a couple of requests...
・A lecture on the stroke order, or possibly tricks on how to write both Hymmnos and Ar Ciela glyphs.
・Give us some explanations about the special grammar rules of the New Testament of Pastalie, such as the ones used in Waterway ~ Mio (such as Azz, YEzz, or the Xc=xxx -> yyy syntax you explained in a previous issue).
・An update to the Hymmnoserver including all of the above...
In previous polls, there have been quite a lot of people interested in Hymmnos (myself included), so I'd like to understand of much of it as I can.
I know you're quite busy, so I'll be looking forward to an update, and cheering you on always.
(Tsubakurame)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

1ですが、厳密な設定はありません。誕生月だけは「蒼痲の宮(10月)」と設定しております。
2ですが、swantが正解です。誤登録の件申し訳ありません。
尚、要望の点に関してですが、「AzzやYEzz、前に回答が出たXc=xxx -> yyyなど」に関しましては、こちらのページの「否定」と「ファンクション」の項目をご参照下さい。
それ以外の件につきましては、更新が滞ってしまっており申し訳ありません。何卒今しばらくお待ち下さい!

1) We haven't fully decided it. The only thing we decided was her birth month: [Soumanomiya (October)].
2) The correct one is "swant". I'm very sorry for having added an erroneous entry.
By the way, as for the requests you made, the [Azz, YEzz, and the Xc=xxx -> yyy syntax from previous issues], you might be interested in checking the entries on "Negation" and "Function" here.
Aside of the above, I'm very sorry that the updates have been delayed so much. Please continue waiting a little more!



2での調合では、サポートするヒロインが違うと別のものが出来ました。
1.調合にはヒロイン(レーヴァテイル)が必要なのか、それとも仕様なのか。
2.ココナや、本来参加出来ないヒロイン(料理にクローシェなど)のサポート作品も考えてはあったのか。
3.だとしたら、何故出せなかったのか。
個人的に、ココナがサポートしていたらどうなるかと思っていましたので投稿いたしました。
(kou)

In 2's synthesis system, all of the supporting Heroines ended making different things from the same recipes.
1) Is an Heroine (Reyvateil) necessary to perform synthesis, or there's other method?
2) Did you have any ideas for letting Cocona, or any of the Heroines that couldn't take part in an specific synthesis store (such as Cloche in the restaurant) in the game proper, help in these synthesis?
3) If the answer to the previous question is "yes", why they didn't participate?
I decided to send this because I was wondering what Cocona would have created, given her style, if she had participated in these synthesis.
(kou)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

1ですが、これはどちらかと言えば「ゲームシステム仕様」として、ヒロインのサポートという形で設定しています。アルトネリコシリーズでは「ヒロイン」にスポットを当てる事によって、よりリアリティのある、生きたヒロインを創出するという事を大切にしています。毎回ゲームシステムはそのコンセプトに沿ったものを設計しておりまして、調合なども同様です。
2、3ですが、1の回答の通り、ヒロインのみしか考えておりませんでした。

1) This falls under [Game Systems], and we set it so only the Heroines would be able to help in the synthesis process. After all, when we gave the [Heroine] spot to a character, we took special care to make them into realistic, living characters. That is the concept that permeates everything in the design of all the systems in the games of the series, and of course, synthesis is included among them.
As for 2 and 3, like I mentioned it in the reply to 1, it's because we didn't think beyond letting the Heroines participate.



ーヴァテイルの歌魔法強化の手段に、第一塔はインストール(インストールポイントにグラスノを直接差し込む)、第二塔ではデュアルストール(お風呂)、第3塔ではコスモスフィアで得たヒューマのプログラムとなっていますが、これらは所属塔の違うレーヴァテイルでも出来るのでしょうか?
個人的にはグラスノ結晶に関しては可能な気がします。
ヒューマは第三塔のレーヴァテイル専用のソフトウェア(?)で、第一・二塔では入手できない気がしますがどうなんでしょう?
(ファウリス)

Among the ways that Reyvateils have for strengthening their Song Magic, we have Installs (directly inserting Grathnodes in the Install Port) in the First Tower, Dualstalls (bathing) in the Second Tower, and Programming Hymmas gained from the Cosmospheres in the Third Tower, but would Reyvateils be able of using methods different from the one used at the Tower in which they are connected?
Since Hymmas seem to be a software (?) exclusive to the Third Tower Reyvateils, I was wondering if they could be used in the First and Second Towers.
(Fauris)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

グラスノ結晶のインストール方式、デュアリスノ結晶の波動荷浸透方式は、どの塔のレーヴァテイルにも適用されますので互換性があります。ヒューマによる強化は、ゲームシステム的にはインストールなどと同じくくりに入りますが、世界観的にはアルトネリコ1,2などの「ヒロインの妄想が生み出した詩魔法キャラ」の第三塔版、というくくりになります。結論から言えば、ヒューマのシステムは第三塔でのみ可能です。

The Grathnode Crystal Install method and the Wave Payload Osmosis method from the Dualithnode Crystals can be used by any Reyvateil, no matter to which Tower they are connected. As for the strengthening through Hymmas, while from a game system standpoint it was added to the game in a way similar to Installs and such, from the setting standpoint it's the Third Tower version of the [Song Magic characters created from the fantasies of the Heroines] we presented in Ar tonelico 1 and 2. In other words, the Hymma System is exclusive to the Third Tower.



疲れ様です。
ヒュムノスミュージカルを早速聴き、前二作にも劣らぬ出来映えに非常に満足しております。ありがとうございました。
では早速ですが、その作中からいくつか質問をさせて頂きたいと思います。
① 劇中でココナが驚いていたシュクレの詠唱速度ですが(自分も新約パスタリエか何かかと思って聴き直しました)、実際にその速度は、彼女が詩だけで複数の前衛を圧倒できたりするほどのものなのでしょうか。
少なくともココナを圧倒する時点で、並の兵士では束になってもかなわないと思うのですが。
② 劇中終盤で発現したシュクレの羽ですが、これは『EXEC_FRIP_METAMORPHOSE/.』単独による効果なのか、あるいは元々シュクレが持っていたものが『METAMORPHOSE』をきっかけとして発現したのか、どちらでしょう。
多分前者かと思うのですが、アカネにはククロウもいましたし、抗体に関する実験がシュクレにも施されているのかも、と思いまして……。
③ これは質問ではなく要望なのですが、前二作にあった詩についての解説が、今作には付いていなかったのが少し残念でした。年末にボーカルベストも出るようですし、この機を逃さず、どこかで解説をして頂ければと思います。
P.S 遅ればせながら、CDアンケートキャンペーンのサイン色紙が届きました。家宝にさせて頂きます。ありがとうございました。
(チキン野郎の棒々鶏)

Thank you for all your hard work.
I immediately listened to the Hymmnos Musical, and the performance in it let me quite satisfied, like the one in the prevous two. Thank your for the experience.
Well, it might be a little early, but I have a few questions about the events in it:
1) While during the Musical Cocona was shocked at Shukure's singing speed (I had to listen again as well, since I thought I was hearing her singing New Testament of Pastalie), actually that speed would allow her to overwhelm the Vanguards with only her Songs?
At least Cocona seemed to be overwhelmed at that moment, and I'm not sure if any other soldiers would stand a chance against her.
2) When Shukure gained wings near the end of the Musical, that was just because of the effects of [EXEC_FLIP_METAMORPHOSE/.], or was it some power that Shukure had hidden and was activated when she began singing [METAMORPHOSE]?
Granted, when I think about it, Akane had Kukuro as well, and I was wondering if Shukure was given an experiment related to the Antibodies too... 3) This is more of a request than a question, but since the previous Musicals had explanations for their songs, I was somewhat disappointed to see that this didn't have any. Since the Vocal Best will be released at this year's end, maybe it'd be a good chance to give us the explanations somewhere.
PS: It may be a little late, but I've finally received the signed colored paper from the CD Enquete Campaign. Thank you very much. I'll make sure to treat it as a family heirloom.
(Chicken Rascal's Bang-Bang Chicken)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

1ですが、ココナが焦るくらいの力量の持ち主である事は間違い有りません。詩魔法は詠唱速度の遅さが弱点なのですが、シュクレはわざと最初瞬間的に弱い威力の衝撃波を出し、相手がひるんでいるうちに次の少し強い攻撃を繰り出し、その間に更に強い詩魔法を詠唱する、という戦い方を得意としています。それ故に、隙が生まれにくくなっています。
2ですが、これは『EXEC_FRIP_METAMORPHOSE/.』単独によるものです。その後彼女がしばらく立てなかったのは、FLIPによってかなり体力と精神力を消耗した為です。
3ですが、今後機会があれば、前向きにご紹介したいと思います。

1) It's unmistakable that Cocona has quite a physical strength and speed. While Song Magic's greatest weakness is the long time it requires to be sung, Shukure's technique is to begin by immediately summoning a weak shockwave to make the opponents flinch, and then begin assaulting them with progressively stronger attacks, which will allow her to finally sing a much stronger Song Magic, which is what has allowed her to win all her battles. That's why she hates leaving spaces between attacks.
2) That's only because of the effects of [EXEC_FLIP_METAMORPHOSE/.]. She couldn't even stand up after she finished singing it, due to how greatly draining the FLIP songs are to both body and mind.
3) If we ever have the chance, we'll make sure to add them.



ュムノスミュージカル ココナの発売おめでとうございます。
今回のミュージカルも、詩の想いを強く感じる事が多々ありました。
質問になるのかはわかりませんが、わからなかったのが
ココナの詩の一番最初の言葉、『:/Awe_nudo_la!/:』はヒュムノス的にはI.P.D用の想いの確約定義で、『この強い想いは絶対に揺るがない』ココナの意思と解釈していいのでしょうか?(読めなくてもなんとなくそんなのが伝わってきたので、推測になりますが)
詩としてそれぞれの一節一節のための想韻はあっても、その根本にある『謳っている最中のココナの気持ち』を表現する部分なのかな…と。
もしかして既に設定資料集には載っていたんでしょうか…だとすると私の修行不足でありますが…
(しあん)

Congratulations on the release of Hymmnos Musical Cocona.
I had all sorts of strong feelings just from hearing the songs that were included in it.
However, I have a question about something I don't understand from it:
The very first word that Cocona's song has is [:/Awe_nudo_la!/:], which I guess in Hymmnos would be the IPD equivalent of the emotion definer, and would it be translated as [These strong feelings will never falter] as a way of showing Cocona's intention? (I've never read about something similar to this, somehow that's the feeling I gave me, although it's no more than a theory).
While it could be an emotional rhyme to make all of the verses of the song rhyme, somehow I have the feelings that the root of it is presenting [Cocona's feelings as she sings]. If by any chance it was explained in the Settei Books... that means that my study hasn't been enough...

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

想いとしてはだいたい仰るとおりです。ただ、この「awe-nu-dola」というのは「ファンクションによって定義された、この詩の中だけで通用する単語」です。詳細はこちらの「ファンクション」の項目をご覧下さい。

I agree with you that they really seem like emotion definers. However, this [awe-nu-dola] phrase is actually a [a word defined by a Function, which can only be used inside this Song]. For more details, please read the "Function" entry over here.



EXEC_HAIBANATION/.について質問です。
フレリアに限らず歌い手が精神体移行することはあるんでしょうか。
その場合詩や移行が済んでいない人はどうなるんでしょうか。
また、塔の影響圏外にいるIPDには影響があるのでしょうか?
(音緒)

I have some questions about EXEC_HIBERNATION/.
Would it be possible for any other singer besides Frelia to perform the spirit transmigration?
And in that case, what would happen to the people if the song or transmigration wasn't completed?
Would it have any effect on the IPDs that are outside of the Tower's range?

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

そもそもハイバネーションによって、フレリアの精神体移行は行われません。若干混同されているかもしれませんので整理しますと、ハイバネーションによって「I.P.D.の精神体は消去され」「人間の精神体はインフェルピラに格納される」という感じです。
ですから質問の「移行」を「消去」と解釈するならば、インフェルピラに精神が格納されているI.P.D.が謳った場合に限り、その懸念は発生します。ただ、そもそもこのハイバネーションという詩はI.P.D.が謳える詩ではありませんので、必然的にその可能性は消えます。
また、塔の影響圏外にいるI.P.D.は、詠唱中に圏内に入らなければ、単なる人間となります。

To begin with, Frelia's mind wasn't transmigrated due to Hibernation. You seem to have a few confusions about it, but we'll take care of them now: Hibernation's effects are [deleting the minds of the IPDs] and [storing the souls of the people inside Infel Phira].
Therefore, if we interpret the [transmigration] from your question as [deletion], this of course would cause great anxiety to any IPD that sung it due to having her mind stored in Infel Phira. However, Hibernation can't be sung by IPDs due to its nature, which naturally eliminates that possibility.
Also, any IPD that goes beyond the range of the Tower will leave Infel Phira's singing range as well, turning her into a normal human.



)3のエンディングでアルルが謳っているシーンがありますが、ティリアとアルルは自由に融合と分離を行うことができるのでしょうか。
2)フィンネルトゥルーエンドにてアオトとフィンネルが海で遊んでいますが、このときはまだ海に生き物は誕生していないのでしょうか。また、生態系は第一紀以前の海とは異なるものになるのでしょうか。
一気に冬らしい気候、気温になってきましたが、どうか風邪などを引かぬようお気をつけて下さい!
(マスカルポーネ)

1) In 3's ending, there's a scene in which Arru is singing, but does this mean that she could freely cancel the fusion that existed between her and Tilia?
2) In Finnel's True Ending, we can see Aoto and Finnel playing at the sea, but at this time no living creatures haven't been born again in the sea? Also, wouldn't the ecosystem become something completely different from how it was back in the First Era and before?
The weather has suddenly gotten wintery and the temperature has gone down as well, so please make sure to not catch a cold!
(Mascarpone)

Tks tsuchiya 01 1

1ですが、エンディングで謳っている段階でアルルはティリアから抜け出ています。惑星の意志として還っているという設定になっております。
2ですが、若干は存在しますが、まだ豊かとは言えない状態です。生態系は第一紀とは異なってくることでしょう。惑星の意志がこの期間で培った経験を元にしますから、以前とは生態系や、生み自体の性質が変わったとしても何ら不思議な事ではありません。

1) At the time in which she appears singing in the endings, Arru has already separated herself from Tilia. She had decided to return to her role of being a Will of the Planet.
2) There are a few at the moment, but we can't say that the sea is abundant with life at the moment, and it's quite possible that its ecosystem changes from how it was in the First Era. Since the Wills of the Planet are already more experienced now with the kinds of life they can create, is quite possible that the ecosystems and lifeforms that will be born from now on will somehow be more wonderful and mysterious than the ones that existed previously.

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